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Open Thread: Denver Broncos (8-8) At New England Patriots (13-3)

DENVER, CO - DECEMBER 18: Quarterback Tim Tebow #15 of the Denver Broncos and quarterback Tom Brady #12 of the New England Patriots shake hands after an NFL game at Sports Authority Field at Mile High on December 18, 2011 in Denver, Colorado. The New England Patriots won, 41-23. (Photo by Patrick Smith/Getty Images)

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5 months ago: DENVER, CO - DECEMBER 18: Quarterback Tim Tebow #15 of the Denver Broncos and quarterback Tom Brady #12 of the New England Patriots shake hands after an NFL game at Sports Authority Field at Mile High on December 18, 2011 in Denver, Colorado. The New England Patriots won, 41-23. (Photo by Patrick Smith/Getty Images)

Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos head to New England to take on Tom Brady and the Patriots. To say that this game isn't going to set records for television ratings would be a lie. Talk about the game here.

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Its a final at the stick

36-32 Niners

I should have taken the over

message sent to Denver defense

can’t stop us. Signed, Tom Brady

That was quick
like the Pats picked up what they were doing in Denver and added a wrinkle (run by Hernandez)
And my failed playoff predictions continue.

I picked the Bengals, Steelers, Falcons and Saints last week. 1 for 4. I picked the Saints this week, so I’m 0 for 1 so far. Still got the Pats, Packers and Ravens.

I did not give you those tips

Am I nuts for thinking it will be a NYG-SFO NFC title game next week?

That would be awesome.

and very very possible.

I missed the first drive...

I see that Hernandez has a 43 yard run. How did that happen?

wrinkle in the offensive set. Ran him on a jet sweep type play.

1 of the BEST GAMES i ever seen.

I hate Brady

he went total douche when he married Giselle…

do you know why they got married

(A) she was pregnant
(B) they are in love
© he’s Tom Brady dadgummit

well his other girlfriend was pregnant
Tebow turns it over.

Once the Pats put this in the end zone, Denver’s going to be in a deep hole.

NE formula

make just enough defensive plays… and ride their offense..

exact opposite of the Giants SB wins
Even in that 16-0 season, their defense wasn't all that great.

They were just able to make timely turnovers and stop opposing teams just enough for their offense to win. Until the Super Bowl, that is.

So I guess Hernandez is a HB now?
"The Brady Bunch"

Seriously?

I used that one already
They beat the Giants in week 17, 38-35

the Packers beat the Giants earlier this season 38-35.

just saying.

*Patriots in 16-0 year
this has blowout signs all over this game
There was a joke going around work

take the over and the Broncos may not score

The Patriots are so inventive...

Putting receivers on defense, using tight ends as running backs. Sigh….wish my team would think outside the box like them.

+10000000000000000000000000
It only works because they're the f***ing Patriots.

Remember when the Bengals tried to run a (somewhat simple) trick play and have Scott throw the ball back to Dalton after a handoff? Absolute disaster- Scott’s pass went 5 feet over his head. We also tried to run the option one play. That resulted in a turnover.

They always say

give a kid a gift in a box and the kid will always play with the box.

TD Pats.

This is getting ugly.

Gresham, Cochart the Hernandez, Gradkowski of 2012

you would like to think that
but Cochart? Seriously? As the second half an all-star tandem?

I’ll take what your smoking

Gresh will give the production of Gronk and Hernandez combined.

Cochart is just there as a figurehead to make it a duo.

I think that's more wishful thinking
Oh, I get it.

You hate the Bengals.

no I just live in reality

Gresham will have a nice year.

I'm messing with you.
Gene Steratore is your referee

AKA Ed Hochuli without the lexicon

Home field advantage

Has been key this offseason.

some playcalling with balls

and lack of defense has helped.

Brady just killed my Saturday night

I just wanted it to be close,didnt care who won
even though i’m still rooting for America’s most hated

oh lord

please don’t let this be a ravens pats afc championship game

Playoffs

Not offseason,

The ruling on the field stands

because it’s the Patriots. Had this been the Bengals, that’s incomplete.

Case in point Gresham catch vs the Ravens

The ball moves wayyyy more than Gresham's TD moved...

And it was a lot easier to see… and clearly the ground SECURED his catch whereas with Gresham is moved half a millimeter AFTER he caught it and brought it into the endzone… For Gronk its a TD for Gresh its overruled… Nice consistency there…

amazing

It’s good to be a Pats fan. The league loves and the refs love you. I think maybe the league tells the refs to love them.

I know the ball moved

But I still never saw the ball hit the ground but I did not see every replay

After this game,all the announcer's will go back to bashing Tebow
Pats have hit every play

8-for-8 for 79 yards passing.

That’s not Tebow’s fault.

I know,i want Tebow to hush them up
well good news

We will only have to listen to ESPN talk about Tebow about 1/2 as much if they lose.

I almost feel bad for Tebow.

If the blowout continues, all we’re going to hear about from the national media is how he isn’t an NFL QB and needs to be replaced. Not only does the media attention make people hate him, he also gets more criticism than anyone when he messes up.

precisely

that’s the thing about Tebow. It is not about his faith or ability. The media cannot believe he is genuine and want to tear him down before something else does. For no reason really

yep imagine having that much pressure. Then again, people have been telling him he couldn’t do it his whole life.

I don't buy that people have been "telling him he can't do it his whole life."

He’s gifted with more athletic ability than about 99% of the people in this world. I guarantee you no one said he “couldn’t do it” in high school. And college? He was recruited by one of the best programs in the nation and won the Heisman in his Sophomore year, for God’s sake.

I havn’t read his book, but from what I’ve heard, he says that people have always doubted him in highschool to go on to play for a division 1 team. But regardless, even though he is very athletic there is no doubt that as soon as the Broncos drafted him in the first round people have been criticizing his ability more than needed thats for sure.

If I was the Broncos

I would bring in a QB and attack this secondary. It’s what everyobe else does.

Your talking about Brady Quinn here

atleast its a QB
Belicheat

looks like the Emperor in his grey hoodie.

except for the yellow fingernails
That 3rd down also not Tebow's fault
I am going to write something unpopular (like I did a lot two years ago)

I think Tebow throws a better deep ball.
He is the rare QB who can’t throw short but can go bombs away if needed.

At least from my view

That's what I like about him

he scrambles around and then boom

Brady threw an INC

he must be cut immediately lol

Denver D has no answers

no pressure, and they can’t cover as much time as Brady has. This is like surgery.

and as soon as I say that, boom!
now an INT

he must be replaced

that would be the Tebow reaction

what in the world?????
mcgahee looking good early
My adrenaline is going crazy

Nothing better than Playoff football

Pats D is pretty bad

if the Broncos don’t get demoralized this game could see 80+ points total.

score here

things could develop into interesting situations

and this isn’t jersey shore

o boy

let the games begin

Interesting

The Steelers sold out to stop the run, so the Broncos replied with bombs away.
The Pats are selling out to stop the run, and not stopping it.

difference between good defense and very good defense

I will never say the mustard and stain has a great defense.

If they did they would be playing this game.

Pats defense is shaky at best

Tebow fumbled once, and there was a dropped pass on the 3rd down that stopped Denver…. if Broncos don’t hurt themselves on offense, they should move the ball.

Mcgahee looks young
He has really been rejuvenated this year
good for him

I’m just glad it happened AFTER he left the Ravens.

Phil Simms

is sooooooo bad… how is he on the #1 crew??

because

SB XXI MVP
Aw shucks mannerisms
the next option is Dierdorf

I am still wondering how that penalty was one sided

Both teams were pushing and shoving after the TD

Brady with another bad overthrow.
yeah but Welker is my height

I could not catch that with a cherry picker

just enough

pressure in his face, couldn’t step into it.

Notice how Quasby doesn't even return punts for the Broncos now?

I’m telling you, the man is worthless.

kinda like tate for us
kick-ass punt
Love for my pitching wedge to do that.
brady not looking so good now
How do you make cheesy bread better?

Put more damn cheese in it, brilliant!

with cheese dipping sauce
Throwing with the wind

easier to throw into the wind because you can pinpoint better. Tailwind makes the oblong spheroid flutter in many odd ways.

Broncos are setting up a bomb on one of these 1st downs
this is gonna get ugly

someone or someones are gonna get thrown out of this thing

# 68 for the broncos needs to watch his ass

he could end up hurting his team

Yes, please, stop the option.

It’s a college thing and it’s stupid. I want teams to shut it down so it ends up having no place whatsoever in the NFL.

I think it could be cool,high risk

But makes the defense have to be honest

Denver needs another turnover
Gronk!! What a beast
i wish we had a beast like that
We do his name is Gresham
hmm

are you sure about that seems like gronk runs circles around him, or maybe we just don’t use our t.e. the correct way.

We absolutely don't use Gresh or any of our TE

like we should

I think it's a combination of both.
I wonder what would happen if him and Gresh switched teams.

Gresh is really hurt statistically by our system not using the TE a lot, but the more I watch Gronk the more I think he’s probably simply the better of the two.

I think we will find out next season

I think Gruden wants to start using Gresh more in the passing game and if we can fix our o-line I think we will be able to

and if we drafted dez instead of gresh and waited for another t.e. would we be better off? who knows woulda coulda shoulda
Could have picked up Gronk later in that draft, actually.

Could you imagine having Dez Bryant and Gronkowski both on this offense? It would be awesome. Oh well…

Would we have drafted AJ

if we would have drafted Dez?

Another interesting thought.

Also, maybe if Carson has Dez and Gronk he demands a trade and we don’t get Dalton. Too many variables involved.

*he never demands a trade

I can’t type or think today.

You just never know
i know

and throw in aj just imagine that

Dez Bryant

Is hurt just as much as he is on the field.

The Pats passing tree

seems like it works a lot better. There’s a lot of plays that seem like the Bengals don’t have in their playbook (especially stuff working deep down the middle of the field)

I will say this

I think our playbook will expand a whole lot this offseason with Gruden staying.

Definitely.

Bellichick has a rare ability to get guys open by scheming alone. You could throw some guys with relatively low talent into his system and as long as they’re smart enough to grasp it, they’ll be good receivers. I bet he could make a guy like Whalen or Baby Hawk look amazing. (Not so much on a guy like Caldwell- he couldn’t even get on the field for the Pats because he wouldn’t be able to understand the system.)

Chuck Norris wears a Gronkowski jersey
It's going back to looking like a huge blowout...

Gotta love the gator chomp

i know he just did not do the gator chomp after that sack

really is looking like kids playing football

Man, Woodhead is fast.
That was a beautiful pass

Gorgeous

going back to another question

who do you guys think is better or will be better in there career dez or aj

Dez Bryant or AJ Green?

You can’t be serious.

both have great upside
Dez is hurt an awful lot

and he has quite a few games where he just doesn’t show up

AJ by a mile
i would say aj

but not by a mile

I would.

Dez is good, but he’s well below AJ. Comparing the two would be like comparing Calvin Johnson to Mike Wallace.

AJ. Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Megatron

are all in their own class at WR. Dez is a step below all of those guys.

AJ is going to work out

with Fitzy, and Megatron this offseason…….that’s awesome

i would like to see aj fill out a little more what is his weight at right now?
Not sure but I agree

I would love for him to bulk up a little….or a lot

dont want him to lose speed

Thats the thing

I wouldn’t want him to lose speed either

I love a receiver who's his height and 240, but AJ isn't built to weigh a lot.

His frame just won’t support that type of weight. He’s fine remaining skinny- he’s still extremely strong.

That said, I wouldn’t object to him putting on a good 10 pounds of muscle.

205ish I believe
A little below 210, I think.
Megatron is in a class of his own even above the rest of those guys, I think.

He’s like AJ plus about 50 pounds and even more strength. In my opinion no one else in the NFL even rivals him.

now he is the best in the buiss.
Thats probably game
Chad might get some playing time now

LMAO. It’s scrub time.

Lol this what we bengal fans had forward to look too if we had beat the texans
the one thing that really bothers me about the broncos is

not only did they draft in front of us last year, but they won there division, and won a playoff game. with that being said they are getting there asses kicked tonight.

5 TD passes by a QB (and 3 TD receptions by a TE) in a half.

#GoodLord

THE NEW ENGLAND DAY MASSACRE
Rest brady put in ryan mallett and ocho
Empty seats?

Anyone know why there’s a big section all empty?

(Not really anything left to talk about for the game…)

i guess the fans are waiting for the championship game next week
he left his fag bag on the field
so does anyone like what the reds are doing so far? i think they need to take a look at left field now.
I love what they are doing

Going for it rather than sitting on there A$$es like they did last year

i know alot of fans did not like them doing nothing last year, and now they look like they want to win now
now brady asking the ref if its ok that he just threw his 6th td this game lol.
At what point do they put in Mallett?

I’d say now is the right time.

no doubt

stay classy Pats

you mean the mallett that mike brown wanted over dalton lol

and on a side not has ocho been out there tonight at all?

Brady has 6 TD passes

Tebow has 3 completions

Kinda glad we lost

I would NOT want this kind of ass whooping

we would not have the ongoing draught of no playoff wins
you have a great point

Just saying I wouldn’t want my team on the receiving end of this

neither would i like this to happen to us

i think we would play a little better than the broncos right now, atleast i would hope lol.

I'd like to think so

Zimmer would have something ready, plus our offense is way better than Denvers

we lost 31-10 to a rookie QB

I think the beat down would have been just as bad myself.

we also played a better defense than what the patriots have

so i think it would not be this bad

I actually like Teebow and have been rooting for him to suceed

His receivers have had some drops tonight. Having said that, I think the broncos are screwed because I don not think he is the long term answer and there is no way Denver can go in another direction at this point

home teams 6-0

so far…

hopefully the Ratbirds are the ones to break that trend!
lets root for jjoe for a couple of pick 6
Saints piled up 450+ yards

and the article still says the 49ers had a stingy defense.

Bizarre.

They forced their share of turnovers, though.

A lot of times when someone uses “stingy” to describe a defense they’re referring to turnovers.

Wow Von Miller...
why? what did i miss
Late cheep shot (or more like shots)

that started a skirmish

oh ok i am not watching the game anymore

me and my wife are watching friends with benefits ( that chick from that 70’s show is hot as hell)

Here it is

Skirmish

that sure was a cheap shot

they can’t win the game i guess he atleast wanted to win a fight lol

Was funny after he started that

To see him trying to go head to head with those big linemen hahaha

Looked like a little kid pushing against his dad as hard as he can and not even moving him lol. Like he goes at like a 30 degree angle trying to push the one guy and gets no movement haha

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