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Report: Bengals WR Jerome Simpson Indicted For Trafficking Marijuana

According to The Cincinnati Enquirer's Joe Reedy, Cincinnati Bengals fourth-year wide receiver Jerome Simpson was indicted by the Kenton County Grand Jury for Trafficking Marijuana (over eight ounces but less than five pounds), which is a Class D Felony and is punishable by one to five years in prison.

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Simpson was under investigation by multiple agencies after a package containing 2.5 pounds of marijuana was tracked from California to his Northern Kentucky home, where six more pounds of marijuana was allegedly discovered. He finished the season without much more word on the situation, leaving many Bengals fans wondering what would happen. This is the first we've heard about the situation since the original incident.

Simpson is a free agent and after an up-and-down season, this news will likely turn out to be the final nail in his coffin with the Bengals.

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The FEDS want to talk to Sampson

because its hard being black and gifted

can you actually remove this cincyjungle...lol

Its starting to disturb and annoy me and I apologize for this post….I honestly did not know it moved until after I posted it

Click the title it will minimize it
Are you related to Andre Caldwell??
yeah he's my cousin

kidding…yeah right…

You never know?

I’m actually related to William “kirk” Shatner and the singer Leonard Cohn.

Im Wrong.

I disagree with what you say and i will defend your right to Speak! Nice job tical…….I am wrong. GREAT POST!!! tx Signed a Dummy

Whats up with this video?

Is this as the Judge says, UnPure Thought?!

Rob Sanders tweeted it out, that is how Reedy got it

Link

Draft Alshon Jeffrey

I would like another tall vertical threat on the outside opposite of AJ.

RE:

Agree. Dude is a beast. Almost the size of a tight end. He’d be great.

When???

With a first pick??? Look up Dwight Jones for 3rd or 4th round, don’t want to waste a pick on WR in the first round…

we will not draft a WR until late in the draft

all signs points to signing a FA WR. We have bigger needs to fill in the earlier rounds.

Yes we do!

This wasn’t a suprise, let’s not over react!!!

+1

I’ve said this the whole time…they were just building their case and establishing jurisdiction…..HOPEFULLY they have a plan

Binns might be the plan
With all do respect, it doesnt take four months to "establish[ing] jurisdiction"

Any first year law student would be able to determine the proper jurisdiction for this case with 2 weeks of their civil and criminal procedures. Also, remember, too, that because of the Controlled Substance Act of 1970, possession of marijuana is always a Federal violation (no matter what State you’re in). It is just a matter of whether the Feds want to proceed with prosecution. In Jerome’s case, they have yet – after 4 months – to proceed with a federal indictment, which leads me to believe they ultimately will not issue an indictment.

Oh your bringing out the Controlled Substance Act of 1970 on my a___

" It is just a matter of whether the Feds want to proceed with prosecution"

This is kinda what I (a non-law experienced guy) was saying…I just think they were building their case….but I agree though

Haha - didnt mean to bust your chops.

I agree with you that it was all part of “building their case”. Which is curious because it took nearly four months. I wish my bosses gave me that much time in my work. Perhaps this Mr. Sanders is a Bengals fan!

Sorry about the CSA. If you ever want a good laugh (or a snooze fest) peruse through the text of the CSA of 1970 – can be found online :-)

Who Dey!

with the law allowing for forfieture of of his property

they were merely waiting for him to get a few more NFL paychecks they could take.

there are late round wrs that can help
Posey in the 5th

plus we have Binns and hazelton. could go after gilyard. or look to bring back Purify who has been destroying the arena league. (and did better vs our D than most other Starting WR’s in the league when he was here)

I agree completely with your Purify comment

I realize the NFL is not the arena league but the positives of bringing him back clearly outweigh any negative (ie…him taking up a roster spot).

1. He was hear before and earned his way onto the 53 man roster. That says a lot and the guys really took to him b/c of his effort and hard work.
2. He was the best blocking WR the Bengals have ever had here, which translates to the RBs breaking off big runs.
3. His has shown his athleticism in the arena league which moves faster than the NFL. The NFL has bigger/faster athletes but the arena game requires faster reaction and plays at a faster pace. This is largely credited for Kurt Warner’s improvement and ultimate success in the NFL. I think it will have helped Purify too.
4. He is familiar with the guys, doesn’t have character issues and is still young and hungry.

There is simply no downside to signing Purify and the Bengals should bring him in now. Simpson is a great talent and a great athlete who could be a #1 if he ever developed some consistency but the Bengals don’t need to hold onto him when he won’t be around due to the legal troubles and this team is moving on from the bad character guys.

Dwight Jones – late first/early 2nd

I'd rather they get a pure speed guy like Kendal Wright in the second

They already have Jermaine Gresham and Green as tall Red Zone targets. They could use a guy who can burn past safeties and blow the top off defenses.

Kendal Wright will be long gone before the 2nd round

Too early to tell,

but you’re probably right. I’ve seen him mocked as the second receiver taken off the board overall. So I’ll just say that I would rather see the Bengals target a speed guy like Kendal Wright.

Dont agree with this is his last nail in the coffin with the bengals statement

even if he misses a year or two, I think the bengals would pick him back up for cheap. And we don’t even know all the circumstances with the situation.

??????

Are you retarded, he is done in the nfl forever

Uh no

If Vick, Burress, etc, etc, can come back, so can he.

Depends on whether these are the only charges

He could be facing further indictments from the Feds and we all know prison terms get longer with the Feds.

Highly doubt it if the county is indicting
Why?

I’m not a lawyer but using the mail to transport drugs could be federal. He had 8 pounds in his house. He had a drug contact across state lines here in CA. Seems to me there could be quite a few federal charges.

wouldn't the sender be charged? not the person who received it...

logically speaking

No definitely not
Great career, JS!
he will be back buddy

doubt he even spends a full year in prison if convicted. If vick can come back, Id like to think Simpson would have a shot.

RE:

Maybe, but it won’t be here. If this was A.J. Green, I’d agree with you. I think they learned their lesson with the Odell Thurman’s and Chris Henry’s (RIP) of the world.

Well Chris Henry came back after many more incidents.

But I don’t think they will throw the book at him for weed. And since he has money he will get a pretty good lawyer, so I think he spends less than a year in prison with a fine.

Id think cincy would be the first team to offer him something since they do know him personally and they can offer him a lower contact. But either way, it doesn’t matter because if he misses next year. He is illrelevant to talk about because no one can sign him regardless.

You do realize that we do have a self-proclaimed "Redeemer" as our owner and general manager

Also, for all those nagging on Jerome, please remember we live in the greatest country in the history of humanity, and that our Constitution guarantees him a presumption of innocence.

If the facts, as alleged, are true, yes, Jerome did an utterly stupid thing (I.e. Having it shipped), but if we’re merely talking about pro athletes who smoke, then please realize that Johnathan Jospeh (they player we all bitched about not having re-signed) was arrested and charged with marijuana possession when a vehicle he was riding in with some rather young girls was found to contain marijuana in a backpack belonging to Joseph. If possession, alone, qualifies someone as an “idiot”, as some commenters have noted, then J-Joe is a really rich idiot (I.e. A $50M idiot).

+1

Pot is a health issue and should be a criminal issue. Its no worse than alcohol or cigarettes. I hate the stigma that is attached to people who get caught or smoke weed. I found out through my years that a lot of people smoke. Not just “dumb” people, but “smart” people as well.

Jerome is just as polarizing as Tim Tebow when it comes to the Bengals fans base. you either like or you hate him. I just don’t know where all this negative feed back is coming from. And I have watched all the games and seen one in person. I just don’t see whats so negative about jerome. He is a good kid.

"Its no worse than alcohol or cigarettes."

This^

It is medically proven that alcohol and cigarettes are more harmful to yourself and others than marijuana

It's more than a health issue

I personally hate marijuana. Whenever I’m in a convenience store, video store, music store, etc. there’s always some spaced-out d-bag slowly walking around staring at everyone and everything and reeking with that sickly-sweet stench of decay that you can feel from 20 feet away. I wish it did cause fast-acting cancer to thin the herd a bit.

That’s a bit extreme. I don’t have a problem with people hitting up a little once in a while, but people who are constantly surrounded by a thick fog of that stench cause that kind of violent reaction in me.

That's a personal thing there

Hell the same could be said of cigarettes and alcohol…

i don't smoke cigarettes or weed

but i think cigarettes smell much, much worse and prompt a subconscious disdain for those that smoke them, unlike those that smoke weed.

That's cold man. I wouldn't wish that on anyone
How is it more than a health issue?

here it is.

yes there are people that are going to abuse drugs or acohol, even food. Too much of anything is bad. There are plenty of responsible users out there, but they are ones that keep quiet.

I think its kinda funny because you can tell if a person has smoked it before or not. Weed isn’t for everybody nor is Alcohol. But its not as bad as what the “propaganda” makes it be.

I think if you have tried it before, you would understand that its not as bad as what you think it would be or that you can be responsible while under the influence. And some people can hand more than others.

Some of the greatest inventors/ CEO smoke pot and get their ides while under the influence. Not too mention all the great works of art and music inspired by it. Its personal/ Health issue if you chose to do it.

The main reason it is a criminal issue is because the paper companies back in the day wanted Hemp illegal so they can have more of the profit share. then a few years later, the healtcare/ law inforcemnet industries piggie backed on the original law to make sure to keep the jails stayed filled or have people prescribe to modern medicine which has many more adverse events but the same side effects than weed.

I tried it at 19

gave me a headache and made me angry. I tried it again at 27 or so, did nothing.

I don’t care if someone wants to light up once in a while, I just don’t want to smell it. And every time I see the stupid, slack-jawed face and vacant stare and feel that stench sinking into my face I want to go back in time to when they were a baby and shake them.

btw

I don’t think pot should be illegal. There simply isn’t a constitutional reason for it. I think people should have the freedom to smoke pot if they want to, as long as I have the freedom to tell them to get the f**k away from me so I don’t have to smell it.

I have known quite a few people that couldn’t cope with whatever life was dishing out out to them, so they smoked pot to temporarily lobotomize themselves. That’s their prerogative. Just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean I support legislation against it.

I think there are medicinal implacations with marijuana as well

but I can definitely see where your coming from because it isn’t for everybody. I just don’t like the stereotypes that come with smoking. Some people may react to it differently and since its not regulated, you don’t really know if its laced with anything else.

also, there is no reason why hemp should be illegal now a days too. Its not pot at all, but you can make so many things with it, that its kinda crazy that its illegal. I think the logic behind it, if you give the people hemp, you eventually have to give them pot.

It could, although probably woldn't (at least not that much)

result in money loss for alot of industries with as much as can be made with it

Yea i think the would take a little hit, but the would just monopolize the market

kinda like why did we wait so long to use natural gas to fuel everything. The united states is over the biggest natural gas reserves in the world. Everyone in the US could basically fuel their own homes with their natural gas from under their house. But people don’t do cause gas is so cheap or at least it was.

So now your seeing more mega gas companies buying all these natural gas reserves. Pretty much claiming the resource before the private market can acquire it and set the prices.

They bigger companies will just the same thing with smaller hemp companies and buy them out.

Why would u want to shake a baby?!
money does help beat mandatory mins

which is odd. since they are minimum years attached. like when jamal lewis served next to no time for cocaine distribution. anyone here on the site would have done 5+ years for jamal’s case. jamal did a few months.

simpson could serve a year or so. he wont serve the full sentence unless he gets a really crappy lawyer or manages to piss the judge off.

yea, i said that in another post about his situation

Cocaine is way more serious than weed but who knows. Since the Feds are still on this “war on drugs”, they may try to make a point. But I would imagine he doesn’t spend that much time in jail.

Ex-Cons are all the rave now in the NFL
draft bust

No doubt about it.

simpson needs to improve on his drop skills

now is not the time to continue dropping things

lol

The OZ intro….good

And to think...

If Marvin had only played him earlier…

so if marvin had played simpson more

it would have kept simpson from doing something stupid and ending his career? is that really what you believe?

I was kidding

In the 4 years of his career, about 95% of what people said about him was “Why can’t this guy get on the field?” I was just trying to play off of that

one of the things we constantly heard

was that simpson had trouble picking up the play book and making adjustments to an nfl offense.

politely put, he’s not quick on the uptake – which would seem to make your case for this and that..

they way marvin giggles

simpson is probly his fall guy

Mikey and Marvin right now

You think we need one more?
We need one more….

Which one is mikey
In the background you can't see him but he's doing the Monty Burns finger in his face laugh
Good. I'm glad.

Not that I necessarily want to see Simpson in jail, or that I even really care about people selling marijuana, but just because this should (HOPEFULLY) eliminate any temptation the Bengals might have about bringing him back. The one thing I was most worried about this off season is that we would re-sign Simpson as the budget-friendly #2 receiver solution which would have just been a horrible decision. This will FORCE us to go after a receiver in free agency. A lot of years, that might worry me. but this year there are going to be a truckload of elite receivers on the market. We dont’ have to even get one of the top 2 or 3 names on the list to bring in a solid upgrade at the position. In order of preference (and ignoring who might stay put):

Colston
Meachem
Bowe
Nicks
Jackson
Garcon

Any one of those guys plus a top RB in the draft (and some obvious line help) makes us a much better offense than anything involving Jerome Simpson.

$#!++y was to look at this

wow

Why? This is a football blog right?

You want to have a conversation about the state of the war on drugs in America? I can do that, too. I don’t know Jerome Simpson. I know he was indicted for allegedly breaking some pretty serious federal laws. Am I supposed to feel bad for him? I’d rather talk about football.

"Good. I'm glad."

This… what an @$$

I'm glad because of the impact I think it will have on the Cincinnati Bengals football team

Is Jerome a friend of yours? Are you politically opposed to federal drug smuggling laws? What’s your problem here?

+1

from what I heard and seen about jerome, he is a good kid. He just got caught. Think about the other football players that are probably doing the same thing, but just didn’t get caught.

also, I really don’t think he was trafficing. That really doesn’t make sense to me. It would be worth his time for the amount he was caught with.

dont think he was trafficking??

Where I come from….8.5 pounds is waaaayyyy beyond personal amount….You may be right…but I doubt it…I dont think this is a Sam Hurd deal…but I think he was probably just selling or maybe even giving some to his local friends and family

i agree thats a lot for one person

but think how much he could smoke with a bunch of his buddies and you dont know if he was going to split it up with a bunch of team mates (which i think is the case)

Hurd is a trafficker, Simpson is not.

I agree

That was kinda my point…I dont think he is making shipments or anything like that…I think he sold and smoked small amounts with his buddies

Jerome Simpson seems like a clown

What has he done to suddenly make people like him so much? Strictly on a football basis, he’s done next to nothing to make fans of the Bengals care that much about him. On a personal level I think I’ve seen about 4 minutes of combined interview footage of him in my entire life. I’ve never heard about him doing any charity work in the community. I have no problem judging him the only way I know how – mediocre football player for a team I follow who just got indicted on drug charges.

I think the drug laws in this country are beyond backwards. But regardless of my or your or anyone else’s opinion on that, FedExing several pounds of weed i sjust a boneheaded thing to do, or to have being done anywhere around you. So why on earth should I feel sorry for a guy I don’t know? I said I was glad that Jerome Simpson the football player won’t be on this team next year. Would I say that to his mom right now? Probably not. But I’ll say it to a bunch of Bengals fans on a Bengals football blog.

Saying "Good. I'm glad." in response to the indictment

is not saying good he won’t be on this team anymore.

I have no problem judging him the only way I know how – mediocre football player for a team I follow who just got indicted on drug charges.

Anyway… just found out the type of person you are from that comment… I don’t know you either but that’s what that tells me about you…

Let me know how Jerome's doing when you visit him in prison

I didn’t realize I was dealing with such an empathetic person who feels deeply on a personal level for every random stranger who gets arrested. Get over yoruself. You started this off calling people names. Grow up.

It was an asinine comment

and I call it like it is. LOL @ you telling me to grow up with these kind of comments…

Come on fellows. Play nice
You called me an ass.

I’m done talking to you. Get back to me when you want to have a real conversation.

And I call it like it is...
You nailed it

I love it when people go to jail. Can’t get enough of it. It’s like porn to me. I watch perp walks in my spare time.

I'm with you on Sampson-Simpson

He hasnt done much at all for the fans…his production is questionable at best, and after this article…He will most likely be out of the Bengals conversations for a long time…if not forever….get his a___ out of here…..NEXT

to reiterate

I am not glad that this happened…it just happened and we all need to just move on

actually he mailed it using the us postal office, which is common because they don't check the packages like a private compny

and I have seen plenty of interviews and games with him in it to know enought about his character. He is a pationate guy. Even Marvin was quoted that he does a lot outside of football when it comes to charity events and programs. If he was this clown and idiot that people make him out to be, then why the hell would the bengals keep him and cut him? doesn’t make any sense

Your arguments make perfect logical sense to me..but like someone else said, the title “good, i am glad” makes it sound like you’re happy that Simpson got caught just so that the Bengals would not re-sign him (even though you clarify that’s not the case in the first sentence). If the title said “this sucks, but on the bright side” with the rest of the content pretty much intact, most people would agree with you (at least, I know I would).

"I am glad that Jerome Simpson will not be on the Cincinnati Bengals roster next year"

Everyone happy?

+1

lol thanks for being the bigger man!

a little bit

but you still hurt my feelings man :p

I know what you mean Eric

Honestly, everyone needs to look past that flip and recognize that Simpson didnt play that well…He had a few good games but in my opinion, I would of liked us to go after someone else anyways…..whodey

he was 12th in drops in the nfl

in 2011

actually

i’m annoyed at simpson, its like the whole stanely wilson feeling repeated. i felt this way about thurman too. talented players that pissed away potential solid careers with stupid off the field choices.

disappointment not joy, is the feeling it brings for me.

you dare speak about Thurman

I loved Thurman….it hurts to speak his name

i think what annoys me the most is out dated fed, state, and local laws

that still make it illegal to smoke. this is only a mistake because its against the law. It should be a personal decision if someone wants to smoke or not and it should be up to the goverment. This a health issue not a criminal one.

+5 gazillion

Dont even get me started on the legalization route….Ohio is still in 1952 with most of its laws…We waste so much time and money fighting a problem that will never go away……EVER….legalize, control, tax….simple

ironically, its easier for kids or teens to get weed or "illegal" drugs

than cigeretts or alcohol because its regulated. Think about it!

i hate the war on drugs

the simpson case isnt about that though.

Exactly.

This was the conversation I was avoiding. I think the laws that lead to something like this are absolutely counter-productive, insipid, and borderline racist. But even so, it’s pretty freaking dumb to mail a couple tons of weed across state lines.

Pounds...pounds of weed

If he had mailed a couple tons I’d actually be pretty impressed.

lol i see why now
Racist?

What? I don’t agree with the laws either, but a “war on drugs” is NOT a “war on (insert race here)”

… not even close

thats what this is... if there was no war on drugs

simpson or anyone who had that amount of pot, there would be no indictment

dude

i think taxes suck. guess what happens if i decide that i dont want to pay taxes anymore?

the dmca and not allowing someone to make a copy of their own dvd? stupid as well.

these are the laws in the usa. if you choose to ignore them, you do so at your own peril. the idea that not agreeing with a law, means you can ignore it, will not shield you from prosecution.

if someone needs to smoke that badly and wants to live that way, there are legal options. rickey williams went and lived in places he do as he wished.

I would love to just pack it up and move to Amsterdam

but thats just not in the cards

i think people have been trying for years to fix the legal situation

but the fact the mega corporations makes billions and billions off it while its illegal federally, makes it impossible to actually do the right thing and make it legal.

If you look at countries that have legalized it

there is no problem and even less people smoke than the U.S….

Yea I saw that program. I think it was Portugal Taxes it and everyone will be happy

Plus they just came out with the study that it doesn’t hurt lung function

well here is the situation

way back and i mean way back. This country was founded on basic principles. Like sovereignty. The states collectively were more powerful than the federal goverment. And over the years, the Feds decided to ignore STATE laws and regulations that stated weed was legal or for medicinal use.

You see, its the FEDS that are jumping over their boundaries and making something illegal for monetary purposes.

I cant argue with the man

The balance of power has shifted to the federal government. The federal government should not have the right to make arrests against a legalized state law…..i.e. California marijuana shop arrests

and to add to my point

this is why state goverments don’t change their laws because it would be a waste of time. The Feds will just look over them and not recognize it even if the state says it legal.

Finally! what a pleasure to hear Intelligence.
I was in Miami @ the Superbowl

When the whole Stanley Wilson Thing went down on the eve of the big game (stanley locked himself in a bathroom and was hiding from people cause he was all paranoid from the “crack” he had been smoking) it truly was heartbreaking.

Then on the 7th play of the Superbowl we lose “Tim Krumrie”

From my seats at the Superbowl…….I could see the “City of Miami”
all a flutter in flames (due to the riots that were occurring at the time.

Man, I haven’t thought about that for a while until you mentioned Stanley Wilson’s name.

That was a really weird weekend.

You’re right, it is dissapointing.

i was in kissimmee when it happened

totally killed the super bowl that next day, started the day in a fog. then the game started and the krumrie thing, agree. you knew as a fan, it wasn’t meant to be for us that day even before it got going.

Now this is a COMPLETELY different comment

and not asinine

Actually, it's exactly what my original post said

Just without the word “Good” in the title. If you had bothered to read the original post, you could have kept your panties squarely un-bunched this whole time.

I read it and look at you still going on

whatever, my original assessment stands then I guess… as you said, I’m done talking to you

Hey..Bengals fans are used to trials and tribulations

This is what success does to a fanbase

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZjvXxwvg8mc

If only she hadn't worn sparkles. Waaaaaahh
Maybe you'll be happy if he's in different stripes "con"???
NOT a federal indictment

A local prosecutor has no jurisdkition to enforce federal laws. That would have to come from a United States Federal District Court. This indictment merely states, in part, that Jeromie Simpson was in violation of Kentucky law by possessing this substance. It is also a federal crime, but unless and until a federal indictment is rendered, the local prosecutor cannot prosecute any Federal laws (which would then specifically EXCLUDE anything related to the fact that the package crossed stage lines).

Also, with regard to your list above, I noticed you have “Nicks” listed. I don’t think you are referring to OG Carl Nicks, considering that all other players listed are WRs. If, however, you meant Hakeem Nicks, hd is NOT a free agent. Mario Mannimgham of the NYG’s is, however.

Hakeem Nicks isn't a FA?

I thought he was. Eh…I guess you could throw Manningham on the list towards the bottom somewhere.

Hakeem Nicks still has two more years remaining on his rookie deal

He will be an UFA AFTER the 2013 season

from roto
8/1/2009: Signed a five-year, $12.54 million contract. The deal included a $6.5 million signing bonus. 2011: $575,000, 2012: $750,000, 2013: $925,000, 2014: Free Agent
F#%! THE FEDS!!!!!!!!!!

They’re a bunch of Lying, Cheating, evidence planting, script writing (supposed witness testimony). non common sense, Keystone , waste of tax payer dollars’ $ fools that I have ever witnessed.

gratefulmax

You are now the managing editor of CincyJungle……make us proud

dude power to the people

freedom of speech

unfortunately

now they’re watching max and will plant 8 lbs of weed at his house…yet, no one will ever hear about this, he will simply disappear, nice know you max.

they are watching us too
already

had my run in with em, got the better end in the deal, good luck tic, I’m constantly on the move bro. my advice is…get going…lol

I am a law abiding citizen

They can watch all they want

me too

why I got the last laugh.

They tried to kill me and all they ended up doing was lifting the veil and making me and others STRONGER!
I can see that "joeb69" has a very clear picture of how they work.

It’s refreshing to see that there are still those of us who are not a bunch of mindless sheep grazing on the grass that they force feed us.

Oh yeah

I “get it” cause they tried to give it to me…lol

From bad to worse.

I totally agree wih you. The only issue I now see is they will probably resign Caldwell now. That totally sucks. I am not a Simpson fan but i would rather have him than Caldwell.

Colston, Bowe and Nicks will be locked up

I would LOVE to see Vincent Jackson….Could you imagine him and Green lining up….wow

I worry a bit about Jackson

I think his best days might be behind him, and I’ve never been crazy about his attitude – though that might have been magnified from playing with a bunch of head cases in SD. Still, he’s basically a bigger AJ and I think we need more of a speed guy.

I agree on the attitude and the speed

Garcon will be a great pickup as well

lol no garcon please...

find someone else

I agree with this. I wouldn’t mind seeing Meachem or Garcon

I don't see the Meachem love.

He has failed to excel in the NFL. Simpson had more yards this year, Shipley was only 40 yards behind him last year. What makes us think he can do more for us?

Meachem

His yards are so low because he is one of SO MANY targets in New Orleans. Not a fair comparison.

Others on that team don't have the same problem

Meachem was regarded as the best offsenive player on that team coming out of college, but he has plattued at 650 yards a season. Graham is able to get over 1,000, as is Colston.

Carl Nicks will almost assuredly leave New Orleans

Please read my fan post and the link contained therein.

Hobson's report the other day didn't exactly fill me with hope, though...

Apparently we’re not looking at big FA names.

ol Baghdad HOB

I dont think he has ever filled anyone with hope

hobsons job this time of year

is the bengals smoke screen.

Exactly. Remember he works for the club, he’s not an outside reporter trying to get the scoop.

+1

For once we need to put out a bunch of bull____ so that the whole league does not know our pick or FA preferences

i wouldnt mind Laurent Robinson

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4241/laurent-robinson

hell yeah

I think Cowboys will lock him up…He was awesome last year

think he's loving dallas too

considering he’s spent 4 seasons trying to find a home in the nfl. fast and talented thats for certain.

+1

I agree though…I would love to see this guy in stripes

Agreed

We should draft a WR in the third or fourth. For the money it’d take to re-sign him (though I’m sure he’ll be cheaper now), we could probably re-sign both Pressley and Lawson, or some other combination of reliable role players.

That said, Simpson is way too goofy to be any sort of menace to society. I can think of a few dozen “legal” businessmen I’d lock up before him. I look forward to the day when nicotine trafficking is a similar offense, since it’s more addictive.

Don't mess with my smokes man lol ;-)
order of events:

1. marvin approaches mike brown about jerome’s lack of production over the years, culminating with his drops as the #2 this season. marvin then explains that adding a talented, veteran free agent for next season would be in the team’s best interest.

2. mike brown says simpson will be fine as the #2, and will be much cheaper than a veteran free agent, which is in his pockets’ best interest.

3. marvin lewis plans elaborate drug smuggling and possession plot to get jerome indicted.

4. we sign a top WR free agent with a good attitude and history of success in the offseason

5. ???

6. SUPER BOWL!

Called this weeks ago.

I said feds would snatch him as a favor to MB once the season ended. Its a shame a young professional has his career go down the toilet like this.

This is NOT a federal indictment

This is a local prosecution led by a prosecutor who curiously waited four (4) full months after the alleged incident before seeking an indictment. Maybe Mr. Sanders is a fan of the Bengals and didn’t want to proceed with the indictment because he liked the team. Or perhaps Mr. Sanders had Jerome on his FF team! Please sense my sarcasm in that last sentence.

lets see what happens

the whole interstate commerce angle (state to state) and mail delivery could turn this fed at any point.

True - but my experience with Federal indictments is that it is extremely rare to wait 4 months for a case like this.

In my years as a licensed attorney (and in talking to much more experience attorney colleagues than me), it is rare that the feds would wait this long for a rather seemingly straightforward case (I.e. Package sent to a residence). In cases dealing with complex issues and not straightforward federal drug laws (as would have been the case here), it is more likely that the Feds will take their time.

But they are investigating other Bengal players for additional indictments.
You are right on

If it was Federal it would be see ya later.

He could still get probation if he falls on his sword/admits guilt etc and pleads down.

Not looking good for his career either way – did not want to see him back in stripes – hope he can this past him, learn how to read a playbook and hook up another team. Always kind of figured the flip TD would be his lone highlight in the NFL

The point is

his poor performance this year when given a starting role and this indictment means MB will not resign him. Bengals are trying to turn the corner on players with bad or illegal behaviour.

i'm not ready to buy into that yet

brown will always like a bargain. hope you are correct, i’d love to see cincy continue to focus on getting team players with solid character.

From winning programs with winning attitudes. Amen!
OK

so which FA Wideout best suits this offense?

one that will sign for 1-3 million plus incentives

wait, thats the wr that best suits the front office..

+1

Yep. Hell would have to freeze over for the Bengals to sign the top FA WR

And that's not necessarily a bad thing.
considering how well the last few BIG wr fa signings worked out

i can understand why cincy’s FO would steer clear of those deals again. Antonio Bryant and Laveranues Coles, ouch.

Colston

Though he’s probably a long shot to leave NO. Meachem is a close second. I like Nicks, too. It needs to be a speed guy with some height. To me, that pushes Jackson and Bowe a little further down the list. Garcon might be the most realistic solution since he’ll probably be on the cheaper side. I’d take him.

bowe will get a ton to stay in kc
Yeah a lot of these guys are going to be re-signed

Just talking hypothetically for now.

If there is a silver lining it is that this indictment is not a Federal indictment

At least not yet. The fact, though, that this indictment was rendered almost 4 full months after the incident leads me to believe the Feds simply determined they had “bigger fish to fry”.

We are talking about a local (not federal) prosecution, and coupled with the fact that Jerome has no (known) priors,it would not be unlikely if this prosecution results in no jail time.

I also find interesting Mr. Sanders’ willingness to wait almost four months AFTER the incident occured before seeking an indictment – coincidentally until the end of the season??? Perhaps Mr. Sanders is a fan of the team.

Also, the indictment appears to be limited to the 2.5lb shipment ONLY, anx NOT the 6lbs subsequently discovered during a search of the residence.

For those saying Jerome’s career is over really don’t have a fine understanding of our legal system.

I do, however, envision Goodell issuing at least a 4 game suspension.

+1

look at hurds situation and then look at Jeromes. There definately is a difference. I think its bull that they are trying to charge him with trafficking… it wouldn’t be worht his time for that amount to try to sell and make a profit

i just see 2 idiots that had everything going for them

and tossing it away.

(guess i’m feeling half empty glass on this one)

because he smokes makes him an idiot?

i think this is more common with NFL players more than what you think. Yes he was dumb for getting caught like this but morally speaking, jerome didn’t do anything wrong. IMO. Just sh*ty laws.

rolls eyes

you’re really holding onto a pound + is for personal consumption? and hurd was just gettting his little fix for personal usage also?

no i don't think the whole 8 pounds was for him

i gaurentee he was going to split it up with his buddies on the team and not on the team

my point about hurd was he is a real trafficker. He was like the weed kingpin in chicago

Does not matter if its for personal consumption or not

its against the law and that’s that. you can call the law an ass all you want (in this case at least), but if you break it and get caught, you’re going to jail.

"consumption"?
yep..consumption

According to Merriam-Webster, it could mean more than one thing, but the definition I am going with in this context is “a progressive wasting away of the body especially from pulmonary tuberculosis”

In all honesty, circumstances exist where it could be for private consumption.

FIrst, NFL players are not paid as you or I, the get 17 checks a year, plus random bonuses. Simpson had just been paid for the first time in a year, and may have bought a lot of pot with theat money to last for a while.

Then there is the pot for his posse, which may siphon off him and play video games all day.

He may not sell it.

Black Stripes, You took the words right outta my mouth.

He won’t do a day unless the Fed’s get involved.

In which case if they do than he is guaranteed to do some time because of the
mandatory guidelines system.

It's 7 days mandatory jail time for possession in KY

I unfortunately know this as a fact.

I think this is the nail in the coffin

Simpson was extremely inconsistent. However, I don’t think we make a splash to replace him. Shipley and Whalen are the type of reciever that can play the way Houshmanzadeh used to play. They will be where Dalton expects them to be when Green is not Open. I like a lot of guys who may fall to the 5th round like Deveir Posey, BJ Cunningham, Jordan White, or Jeff Fuller, and we may use a late round pick at reciever, but I don’t think we need a huge name guy opposite Green.

I wouldn’t mind drafting Hilton if he weren’t made of glass.

I agree...don't take a WR high.

But I may disagree that Posey goes that late. His “character flaws” are so small. After the combine he’ll likely be considered a steal in the 3rd round.

I agree he is the least likely to fall.
Add Marvin McNutt
That's a shame....

…for Jerome. I’d say his career is over.

naah

some team (most likely us) will take a chance on him once they find out how many games he is going to be suspended for.

what makes you think that?
at least as a Bengal...

…he’s a free agent, not sure if the Bengals would want to pursue him with this issue—but of course they have done similar things in the past. I could be wrong.

Dude’s got some pretty awesome athletic skills…just needs to get his head screwed on straight. He had a couple of highlight reel worthy plays this season (the flip and the other one where he literally leap-frogged a defender). Its true that he is not consistent, but if you could sign him on as a cheap #3 WR after a 4 game suspension, would you not take a chance on him?

That's a very Mike Brown thing to do...

…he does have a lot of athletic ability, but not to sound mean, I can’t help but wonder, setting aside the whole pot thing, if he’s ever going to be any better than he is. He has been under contract for 4 years, how much longer do you give him?

Good question

I just don’t know. Maybe they’ll cut him loose if they sign someone like Meachem or Garcon. Maybe they’ll figure that Brat’s system was too complex for him and that Gruden can simplify plays enough for him to be a factor every now and then.

The pot indictment...

…just adds another question mark at a really bad time…he’s not under contract.

If Mike Brown believes in him

he will be back as a Bengal…. just like with Chris Henry…. MB had a soft spot for Chris, if he has a similar relationship with Jerome, than likely could be back…..

True

But I think Chris Henry had a higher ceiling than Jerome. Chris was a much better talent and slipped to the 3rd round because of character issues, similar to Randy Moss.

. . . and he sticks the landing

Could win an ESPY dammit!

Ha, hA,Ha, hA,HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Armon Binns Anyone??

Why not promote Coffman to the roster and start him at WR???

Seems more likely they Bengals will have too look for a FA WR

P.Garcon
R.Meachem
M.Colston
D.Jackson
S.Johnson
D.Bowe

+1

I’ve mentioned that they might already be looking at Binns a couple of times.

+1 even great, makes our message be known

might be the next Victor Cruz

And they've also got Vidale Hazelton on the PS

I know, people are going to say you don’t bank on PS players, but like someone mentioned, tell that to Houston and Arian Foster. But watching film on Hazelton, he ran good routes from what I could tell, don’t think I saw him miss a single catch, athletic…

It’s just a matter of whether or not he still has it after his injury

problem with coffman to wr now

he’s not fast, so he’d have to be a possession wr, which we have in abundance. meaning coffman would have to beat someone already on the roster.

we’d still need a burner in fa or draft

Burner??

hmmmmm

Meachem
Garcon

Garcon seems to have cinder block hands.

Not sure we need any more of those. Meachem would be my choice at this point.

its pretty clear the only people who like

Chase Coffman are Bengals fans.

He’s a third round bust.

why not use him to his best abilities

catching the ball over the middle and running away from LB’s and S

If he was that good at that...

…he would have made the roster last year. He’s out of options this year—unlikely to make the team in my opinion. Cochart is good, we have Lee, possibly Scaife.

If I read correctly, he's the only player on the practice squad not to be offered a deal...

…not a good sign for Chase.

oh i see

bring back Reggie Kelly as the TE Coach then things will change

I think he might have Simpson-itis

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that once the system changed, he got demoted again.

I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the box...

…he went from being on the roster, to DL, to practice squad to free agent. Pretty sure that’s the wrong direction. I doubt he’ll be back in a Bengals jersey.

Funny

A lot of people dislike and don’t want Simpson back, but are looking at Manningham as a FA signing… who had less production and almost as many drops…

he's not fast enough and he drops balls

a 4.6 40 yard “burner” wr with questionable hands? passsss

Smoky Rome was sunk as soon as the cops found 8 lbs in his house

that is a huge amount in terms of bulk. I’m not sure why so many months elapsed between the delivery of the pot and his indictment. Perhaps the dealers here in CA worked for a plea and gave up Smokey Rome?
Any how, poor dumb kid. His play this year struck me as what you’d get from a guy using too much weed.. Wildly inconsistent play.
In my mind it doesn’t change the draft at all. I figured he wouldn’t be on the Bengals squad all along. Plenty of good FA’s out there.

He did look like an addict....

Who couldn’t find a fix. You could tell when the guy was stoned. He would have break out games. Even fly over people. When he wasn’t stoned he looked like someone who just wanted to get stoned.

disclaimer:
This was a joke.

The entire 8 pounds are NOT at issue in this indictment

This indictment – which is issued under Kentucky state law and prosecuted in Kenton County – reveals that Jerome is charged with a class D marijuana possession felony (I.e. An amount greater than 8 ounces, but less than 5 pounds). This range would, therefore, EXCLUDE the other 6lbs purportedly found at the residence after the search. The indictment only deals with the amount of the shipment – 2.5 lbs – as this is within the class D felony range specified in the indictment.

Also, I’d be surprised if the Feds decided to pursue this matter. Yes, 6.5lbs is a lot, but in the grand scheme of FEDERAL law enforcement efforts against drug trafficking, this is single-A ball. The Feds go after the Nate Newtons, the Sam Hurd or the Byron Moreno’s of the world (Byron Moreno is an international soccer ref who was arrested at JFK airport in NY after he was caught trying to smuggle TEN POUNDS of heroin. Oh yeah, and the Feds only sent Moreno to prison for 2 and a half years for possessing TEN POUNDS of heroin. The jimpson case is NOT even a federal case. Please google search “Byron Moreno” if curious.

Fair enough.

So the you think the state of Ky has already spoken. What I still have a problem with, is there were others involved here in CA who shipped the weed. Might not the size of this organization get the Feds attention? Since Smokey was working with them, might there be a bigger case yet to come?

Always possible

We’ll see. Have you heard anything out there in California about State or Federal officials investigating who sent the shipment? I guess there is always a possibility of a bigger indictment, but at this point, if there were going to be one, I think the Feds would have informed the state of Kentucky that they shouldn’t seek and indictment that that the Feds will “handle it”. We’ll see

Not much of a story out here, remember this is the land

of Pot store fronts, ie its legal out here.

Did find this from a local news outfit talking about Simpsons home.

"The house was set up as a potential distribution network," said Tommy LaNier, head of the National Marijuana Initiative, a group that is funded by the Office of National Drug Control Policy and helps coordinate marijuana enforcement operations around the United States.

"They had it all set up to receive supplies of high-grade marijuana from Northern California, and from there, it was being distributed from that residence," he said.

All the packages were sent from a pot-producing area of Northern California known as the “Emerald Triangle,” LaNier said.

In recent years, drug agents have stepped up efforts to intercept California-grown pot being shipped out of state by drug-trafficking organizations seeking higher profits.

Michelle Gregory, spokeswoman for the California Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement, said the operation was initiated by a special marijuana task force after agents discovered a suspicious package at a commercial sorting facility in Sacramento.

and wouldn't the "sender" be charged instead of the receiver?

as far as a federal charge…

Both

But there are questions as to whether Jerome was, in fact, the intended recipient (remember, the indictment alleges that Simpson’s girlfriend signed for the package). Yes, Jerome is listed as the home owner, but that fact, in it of itself, is not dispositive as to whether Jerome was the intended recipient. The fact that Jerome owns the home certainly creates a presumption that he was the intended recipient, but that presumption is certainly rebuttable.

interesting

I think there is nothing they can do about the shipment.

still wondering if simpson didnt cut some sorta deal to keep the feds off of him
Smokey Rome might have other problems as this

was a County indictment. Feds or State of Ky might have further charges with longer prison times than 1 t o5.
Poor dumb guy. What a waste. Jerome, if he had committed himself 110% to pro football had the talent to be one of the best in the game.

Let's give Jerome some credit for giving us the highlight of the decade.

The flip was the coolest play I’ve ever seen in a football game.

I think we need a vet presence on offense.

People are knocking Meachem but he put up 650 yards a year for the Saints sometimes being 4th or 5th option. He is pretty young still, around 26-27 and he is a deep threat. They could look into Reggie Wayne also. Don’t know how much he has left in the tank but imagine the knowledge he could give Green and the players on the practice squad, like Hazleton and Binns. At his age I think they could get him on a decent 2 year deal. Then we could even draft someone in the later rounds like a Broyles, Streeter, Childs or Posey.

well in New Orleans case. They have one number 1 WR and 5 other number 2s lol
hahahaha

Very well said but thats true.

It's tough to find a good dealer

Hopefully Jerome can end up in Indy or Cleveland – this way if any of our guys need to score some weed they can make the drive and get back in time for practice.

I'd be interested to hear what you guys think about getting DeSean Jackson.

The guy (you gotta admit) is a game changer and can do it in the “return game”as well.

No use making jokes guys...

He’s an exciting and nice player who fudged up and now has to go to prison,.. This sucks

Unless the Fed's get involved he'll get probation & Comm Service. (1st time offender)
Ky is mandatory 7 days, even for a seed

But yeah, mostly probation. 7 days is better than 1-5.yrs. ;-)

This assumes, of course, that he is either found guilty or enters a guilty plea of somesort.

He can always exercise his constitutional right to go to trial and possibly be acquitted, in which case he would mostly likely return to his residence and light one up (and I wouldn’t blame him).

Smok'em if you got'em ;-)
Now what about DeSean Jackson in Free Agency??
really?

little scared of him after his behavior last season. if we’re going that route, why not just resign TO or Ocho (after new england cuts him in the off season).

DeSean Jackson

Maybe they sign Jackson who they should have drafted over Simpson in the first place.

Not worth the BS
SeeYa,take PACMAN and BENSON with you

As far as i know,those 3 are the last of the bad reputation Cincy has,Talk about having a solid
locker room,complete turnaround

JS played all season with this in the back of his mind

I don’t know how you go to work every day with the knowledge that you may very well be in jail in your near future. Excuse for why he was mediocre? We’ll likely never know. Like the guy, but can’t say I feel sorry for him (if guilty of all charges, of course).

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