The Bengals' Pro Bowl representatives have landed in Hawaii, while the coaching and scouting staff are watching the newest prospects of the upcoming NFL Draft on the opposite side of the country in Alabama. There's only the All-Star showcase, otherwise known as the Pro Bowl, and the "Big Dance" left to play in the 2011 season. The week-long festivities leading up to the Super Bowl and all of the hype that comes with it don't kick off until next week.
Even though the season has nearly come to close, there really isn't a "dead time" in the NFL--not to us fans anyway. The 2012 scouting process has begun and the rumors are swirling as to who the Bengals are targeting this week at the Senior Bowl.

I was asked by commenter @keithclark77 on Twitter about some rising prospects in the Senior Bowl this week:
@CUIBengalsFan what RB/G improved his draft stock the most thus far? #cjmailbag
Now keep in mind that I'm not actually in Mobile, Alabama scouting the practices myself and most of what I know is through hearsay. That being said, the big winner through the first few days of Senior Bowl week has to be Boise State running back, Doug Martin. He was considered a late second round pick going into the week, but his size, speed and other attributes have scouts calling him the best back at the Senior Bowl. It sounds like he's not outstanding in any one particular area of his game, but is pretty solid in all aspects. We'll have to see how he plays in the game itself, but he's improved his stock considerably. Truth be told, I like what I'm hearing about this kid and he could be a good fit here in Cincinnati.
The guard position seems to be a bit trickier. Georgia's Cordy Glenn, an imposing figure that has a late-first to early-second round grade, has had a decent week and has stood up to elite defensive talents like Quentin Coples and Courtney Upshaw. I wouldn't say he "improved his stock" per se, but with other lineman seeming to look inconsistent this week, Glenn has helped himself by simply being the player that everyone expected. This draft also seems to have a lot of tackles and centers that could kick to guard, so that's something to keep an eye on.
I would not be surprised to see the Bengals take Glenn if Stanford's David DeCastro is off of the board. Glenn seems to be of the Bobbie Williams mold and could be a day one starter. If they grab either Glenn or DeCastro and last year's fourth round pick Clint Boling pans out, the line could be a lot more stable than it was in 2010 and 2011.
Other players that have been impressing this are: Iowa wide receiver Marvin McNutt, Oklahoma State quarterback Brandon Weeden, North Alabama cornerback Janoris Jenkins, Arkansas wide receiver Joe Adams and Georgia cornerback Brandon Boykin.
Most of the NFL coaching vacancies have been filled now, with Mike Zimmer seemingly being left out in the cold. It still baffles me as to why he hasn't had his opportunity in the NFL. I'm grateful that it looks like he'll be sticking in Cincinnati, but there must be something about him that rubs teams the wrong way. He's had numerous top-ten finishes with his defenses and is well-versed in the 3-4 and 4-3 schemes, having run both in Dallas and Cincinnati, respectively.
He's done a great job with what he's had here and I'd like him to stick around for a long time. Zimmer has resurrected the careers of players like Chris Crocker, Adam Jones and Tank Johnson. He's very good at having his team rebound after a poor performance and if he emphasizes something during a week's practice, the team responds. As a Bengals fan, I want him here.
However, as unpopular as this may initially sound, I wonder if we overrate him here just a little bit. His unit still has the occasional lapses and poor performances that have cost the team games (see vs. Baltimore, Week 17). They still lack the ability to overcome a free agency departure and/or injury to consistently compete. Let's also not forget that the unit can't consistently cover a tight end. And, the supposed prized possessions of the Bengals defense, Rey Maualuga and Keith Rivers, have yet to live up to expectations.
You can argue that this may be a by-product of a poor job of scouting and bringing in depth. Or you can argue that the situation with Maualuga and Rivers lie with linebackers coach, Jeff Fitzgerald (who may not have his contract renewed, by some reports). I'd probably agree with you to an extent, but the truth is that Fitzgerald ultimately reports to Zimmer. I'm really glad that he'll be staying in Cincinnati, but there has to be a reason that a man who has successful coached NFL defenses for almost two decades gets snubbed for the same head coaching position for his counterpart in Baltimore who has only had one year of defensive coordinating experience.
Lastly, I couldn't end this mailbag without talking about a "hate email" that I received recently. Last week, I posted my very early predictions for 2012, based on what next year's schedule looked like and what the upcoming offseason holds for the Bengals. In case you missed it, I predicted an identical 9-7 record.
Shortly after the article was published on Cincy Jungle, I received an email that called me every name in the book. I'll keep the commenter's identity anonymous, but their take was that the Bengals will be winning four or five more games than what I had predicted. That's not out of the realm of possibility.
Again, my prediction was based on where the team is at in this point in time. I also took into consideration that the Bengals seem to never string back-to-back playoff seasons together. I also began to wonder if Marvin Lewis is the coach that will get them over the hump in the playoffs--but that's another topic for another mailbag. I just want to let the angry emailer know that this was a very early prediction and could very well change with the draft choices, free agent acquisitions and injuries that the team accrues this offseason. Not much would surprise me in 2012 with the Bengals--they could very well go 12-4 as the angry emailer predicts and I may agree come May or June. For now, I'll temper my optimism and stick with 9-7.
Shoot me any questions or comments or hate mail that you'd like to see on Cincy Jungle's mailbag feature at bengalanthony@gmail.com or @CUIBengalsFan.
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I see a lot of love Doug Martin
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
rec
palewook - January 26, 2012
lol i think im starting to go crazy
i just looked at the scouting report on Pead at espn.com and they had his vision below average lol. And I thought that was his best attribute. I guess I’m see something different when I watch Pead play because to me he is easily a top 5 prospect at RB. I really don’t get it.
Richardson
Pead
Martin
Miller
in that order would be worth drafting in the first two rounds IMO.
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
pead is small by nfl standards.
will keep him in the 3rd to 5th round.
palewook - January 26, 2012
I don't buy that ... I.E. Chris Johnson
Pead averaged like 6 yrds per carry behind a very average oline and he had some monster games against good competition. I must be missing something.
Plus, Pead has the frame to add 15-20 pounds with out losing a step… I can’t for this draft to see what teams really think about players…. I just don’t buy no other NFL scout or analyst is not seeing what I am seeing. I have a feeling a team will scoop him up out of now where…
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
not saying he cant be successful in the nfl
just noting teams to have standards for prospects and grading systems. a 190 pound running back, rarely goes in the 1st or 2nd round.
palewook - January 26, 2012
yea, don't get me wrong. I wouldn't mind picking Pead up in the 3rd
That would be amazing. But I really don’t think he will be there.
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
And if Pead runs a 4.24 at the combine, he'll probably be a first rounder too.
But he probably won’t, so he’s gonna be stuck in that 3rd/4th round.
Animal_Like_Football - January 26, 2012
true, but speed and size isn't everything...
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
I love you
Joe Goodberry - January 26, 2012 via Android app
lol i had a feeling you would say something eventually
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
oh yea... Ive been trying to watch the Pead vs Tennessee game on youtube, but can't find it anywhere
would you happen to have a link?
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
Here from Draft Breakdown
Pead vs Tennessee 2011
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
That^
Joe Goodberry - January 26, 2012 via Android app
BTW
Thanks for pointing me to Draft Breakdown. Have been able to watch so much play by play on so many players!
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
No problem, that’s the secret stash where draftniks go.
Joe Goodberry - January 26, 2012 via Android app
lol.
haha. Well, mostly I’m just trying to listen to both arguments and I think you’re making the stronger one. I like Pead, he seems to have amazing open field agility, but it’s hard to imagine him breaking tackles at the NFL level. I could see him being very successful in the NFL in a role like Sproles has in NO, but I could also see him really struggle in a more conventional offense.
Animal_Like_Football - January 26, 2012
isn't that true with the majority of players that come out?
its calculated risk drafting college players. There are very few players that can go to any team and be successful. So thats why certain players with superior athletic ability fall because they just don’t fit the teams system.
But with Gruden, the creative play caller he is, will be able to use Pead to his fullest extent.. and my biggest fear. The pats draft pead and he becomes a HOF with them lol.
Sneaky suspicion
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
EXACTLY! You got it!
That’s why 5, 6 or even 7 RBs rank over Pead. Their risk/reward is higher. Pead, at best, is Sproles or maybe even Bryan Westbrook. That’s good. At worst, he’s that speed RB who never handles the NFL game from a physical standpoint (adding weight to a speed RB) or mental (trying to outrun people) aspect.
Joe Goodberry - January 26, 2012 via Android app
and he doesn't pick up the blitz very well
Pead is NOT a complete back. AMA, you keep talking about how he “could” add weight and not lose a step, btw, not a likely scenario. Most scouts don’t see what you see for a reason, THEY ARE NFL SCOUTS, they see the tiny details that you and I miss. Could Pead develop into a premier back, maybe. But the likelihood is slim and so, you don’t draft him before the 3rd.
Marc57 - January 26, 2012
His blocking for sure needs to improve, but if you think about or watch him play... he didn't have many opportunities to block
I would said the majority of the time Pead was in, he got the ball or was running a route.
lol you crack me up with “you keep talking about how he "could" add weight and not lose a step” and “THEY ARE NFL SCOUTS”
first off, there are no NFL scouts talking to reporters and giving them real advice. They are paid to to find talent and keep their mouth shut.
Second, there is no reason why Pead can add 15 pounds and lose a step. Look at the frame on this guy, you can tell he can added a few pounds. Im not talking about fat, im talking about lower leg muscle.
Im sorry, but if Connor Barwin can go from a TE to a DE and gain 30 pounds over an offseason, Im very sure Pead can do the same thing as far as gaining weight and being more productive.
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
His vision makes him as a runner.
So that’s silly. But imo, the kid lacks patience and just isn’t built as a between the tackles runner.
Cry - January 26, 2012
One knock people observing in Mobile have on him
is he kicks everything outside
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
Is that so bad?
DTFCPDX - January 26, 2012
Not if you are using more than one back
and if you don’t have multiple backs in on a play it’s going to telegraph what we are doing.
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
I think he deserves it
but I may be a little bias, because I think he should be a late 1st round pick. I think he would fit very well here
ItsAlwaysSunnyInDayton - January 26, 2012
as the email hate for not predicting the bengals record the way someone else wanted
bengals are going to win 42 games next season. becoming the 1st team in nfl history to do it too..
shrug, can’t please everyone hoss, sometimes you have to settle for being amused by the disgruntled, the stupid, or the ignorant.
palewook - January 26, 2012
For what it's worth, I agree with Anthony.
Depending on how they address their holes through free Agency and the draft, the team could hover around .500 or they could win upwards of 10 games. If they don’t make good moves and continue to lose free agents they could also have a Tampa Bay-esque free fall as well.
Animal_Like_Football - January 26, 2012
i really need to see how FA shakes out
if we let simms and nelson walk, i’m worried.
palewook - January 26, 2012
Nelson's the one I'm most worried about
If he leaves the cupboard will be bare at the safety position. Mays isn’t reliable. Crocker is … Crocker. Miles is a special teamer, and Sands is a total unknown fifth rounder who may not be able to cover.
And I’m not really sold on Barron as a first rounder either. I think he only stands out because this safety class is so weak.
Animal_Like_Football - January 26, 2012
I agree with everything you are saying
Nelson played at a high level and i would say he will at least get tagged. Barron is a good player but it will be a reach to take him in the first by any team. The weak safety class makes him look better than he is.
EPK1979 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
the will franchise Nelson
especially after last season when we could have franchised Joseph
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
I hope you're right.
Pay the man!
Animal_Like_Football - January 26, 2012
hey he predicted 9-7
which will be the first time for back to back winning seasons sense i can remember
Bengalsfan024 - January 26, 2012
Zimmer
I realize that injuries are part of the game, but if Rivers, Muck, and Moch had been healthy this year, I think that some of the lapses wouldn’t have happened—especially in the run game. I also wonder how much Marvin is “forcing” Rey on Zimmer.
Big Sky Bengal - January 26, 2012
Hate mail
Anyone who feels compelled to send hate mail or otherwise lose their shit over something as trivial as professional sports needs to have their head examined. Seriously. People getting hurt or killed over a sporting event? It’s embarrassing.
EarthwormJim - January 26, 2012
Martin
The guy was scout team player of the year as a redshirt, special teams player of the year (while playing nickel), moved from DB to RB his sophmore year, ran for 2500 yards his jr and sr years, scoring 28 TD’s. He outruns DB’s and has a number of 60+ yard TD runs where at least 2 DB’s had the angle and failed. He is at his best in the biggest games – ask Georgia, Utah and Arizone State, whom he punished (including MVP and a 100 yd kickoff TD this year) But my favorite play ever has to be him absolutely flattening safety Shiloh Keo (now with Houston Texans), launching him head on through the air backward into the end zone. Martin barely broke stride, handed the ball to the ref and jogged back to the huddle. No theatrics, high production, can do anything, team player, a coaches dream. Grab em…Andy Dalton will appreciate having him on his side for once (Martin’s TD beat Dalton and TCU in the 2009 Fiesta Bowl).
HSridge - January 26, 2012
Sold!
pemci - January 26, 2012
As much as i like Martin, he doesnt play strong competition every weekend during the middle of the season mostly all those teams were youth team trying to find their way in the beginning of the season
Touhue Cha - January 26, 2012
For all hype about Richardson
Nobody talks about him playing with NFL lineman. If Richardson didn’t have that line he wouldn’t be a top 10 pick. I guarantee that he doesn’t workout at combine, there’s nothing about his game that’s dynamic to it. Martin has way more upside than Richardson to me. It’s not about the competition u face its all bout the COACHING u had. Do u think Richardson would ever agree to play on special teams or practice with scout team?
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
but the thing about richardson
he is polished and probbably the most pro ready RB coming out. When you play at an elite college, your pretty much in a semi pro system and it translate better into the NFL.
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
what nfl team runs there offense?
Not us, I know Richardson is a better rb but he doesn’t fit our system. We need more of a scat back. Gruden wanna run more of spread offense it looks like. Martin, Pead, and James would dominate in our offense.
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
its more about the level of competition Richardson plays when he was at Alabama that makes him good
And i was talking about the conditioning, practices, and off season programs is what is going to be more similar to the NFL. Not the offense they ran.
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
Also, does not hurt that Nick Saban has had NFL experience...
pemci - January 26, 2012
As of right now he fits our offense perfect
Our running plays could see a dramatic change and well just have to wait and see. I think the RB that we get will be the biggest tell if a change in style is coming. Right now Richardson fits perfect. He can run between the tackles and catch out of the backfield. Possibly some stretch plays but our offense can only change so much. You have to take into account on our o line strengths. We have big mauler type guys not small versatile pulling, running type guys. Richardson would fit perfectly.
Bigcatdaddy - January 26, 2012 via Android app
Richarson, Pead, and Martin
have very simialr running styles, all of them would fit perfect in our offense
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
Still not sold on Martin for whatever so reason
Touhue Cha - January 26, 2012
not sold on martin???? really!!!
Let me be the first to say I told you so!!! when he becomes the next ray rice and is tearing it up for some other team in the NFL. He’s an animal and not a me me me kinda player. We need to address the o line via the draft and FA. Martin or miller are way better fit for us than polk or Richardson.
towery10 - January 26, 2012
Richardson
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
yup
Joe Goodberry - January 26, 2012 via Android app
Is richardson better than Ingram?
From not what I’ve seen in film. Rb who forty time is 4.5-4.6 don’t get drafted in top 10. U have to be a freak of nature to get drafted that high. And with this being best rb class in years I wouldn’t be surprised if only 1 rb went in 1st.
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Yes he is
and he is a freak of nature.
Richardson will be that 1 to go in the first.
Richardson can do it all. No matter how much you try to deny it, it is true.
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
And damn you remind me of Chili
without the poetry
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
+1 lol
Bigcatdaddy - January 26, 2012 via Android app
that aint fair
he’s actually sharing a complex thought with us. chili on the other hand has 1 thought to share with us. over and over, “dalton bad.”
palewook - January 26, 2012
Complex thought?
uhh ok
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
not saying i agree or disagree with his delivery
only noting that he’s saying: review the player, check his stats, look at draft grading, and the current cba agreement favors lower priority of drafting slots for risker positions or positions that are heavy in depth.
whereas chili’s monotone message is always the same, regardless of how many words it takes him to make the point, “dalton bad!”
palewook - January 27, 2012
lol im guessing you havn't seen some of pead's runs
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
24 carries for 57 yards and a td against Georgia
Wouldnt really say thats playing great against great competition.
EPK1979 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
I found this to be quite interesting:
This is from the ESPN AFC Blog by Jamison Hensley:
BENGALS: Rookie quarterback Andy Dalton will finally get a chance to see the game from the sideline, the team’s website reported. Dalton is the third quarterback on the AFC team in the Pro Bowl and should appear sometime in the second half. He plans to pick the brains of the other two AFC quarterbacks, Roethlisberger and San Diego’s Philip Rivers. "Just to see how they do things," he said.
Hensley’s Slant: You can tell by how Dalton approaches a meaningless game like the Pro Bowl that he isn’t likely to have a sophomore slump. This offseason will be big for Dalton, who didn’t have one as a rookie because of the lockout. It’ll be interesting to see how much Dalton improves in his second season.
pemci - January 26, 2012
"You can tell by how Dalton approaches a meaningless game like the Pro Bowl that he isn’t likely to have a sophomore slump."
I love that line!
pemci - January 26, 2012
And I sure hope he is right.
Andy has a very high ceiling with the attitude and smarts he has.
Ben-GAL - January 26, 2012
Jenkins
Sounds like Janoris Jenkins is doing all the right things this week…fulfilling all his potential so far. Provided he keeps it up, and with it sounding like Zimmer will be here this year, I think we need to take him in the first.
steve henderson - January 26, 2012
was having trouble covering this week
Look like on 98% of his plays he could’ve been flagged for pass interference. But to be fair it wasn’t only him that looked bad. I thought the cb at senior should have advantage because there wasn’t any big name wideouts in attendance. I was wrong, Wr are dominating the cb. You’re gonna see about 4-5 cb slip because of this week. None of the cb are 1# cb in NFL so we should be able to pick up somebody solid in 2nd. Only cb I’ll take in 1st is Kirpatrick.
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Not what I have been reading...?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/01/24/senior.bowl.practice.tuesday/index.html
steve henderson - January 26, 2012
No indications Jenkins was having any trouble
All indications are he is excelling. Jenkins and Boykin are being viewed as the best CBs at the Senior Bowl. Someone else has Jenkins listed as the 3rd top prospect out of everyone at the Senior Bowl.
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
That’s probably true. He’s a top 15 talent in the draft. His performance this week shouldn’t be a surprise.
Joe Goodberry - January 26, 2012 via Android app
Every cb his struggling
I’m a football fanatic, them so called experts don’t know what they talking bout all time. Some Bentley kid is best cb prospect I’ve seen. Yes he is physical but he is NOT ready to come start for us. And Boykin gets beat by everyone in drills. I’ve read samething u guys, but trust me neither of them guys are upgrade from what I’ve seen over Pac Man.
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Oh wow
another person to ignore…
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
That's why they are in the industry
and you aren’t
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
Pead or Martin want be there when we pick in 2nd
From what I seen this week them guys are locks to be gone by early 2nd. Martin is the better overall prospect just because of his size to guy with that speed. From what I seen at senior bowl makes me wanna take a wr in 1st. None of the cb or g are playing well to me. The d line are destroying the o line and none of the corners look anywhere #1 corners on our team. And u could make a argument that Boling is on par with Glenn so I wouldn’t touch him. Don’t call me crazy but we have to take Barron with our 1st pick and take d line or lb with 2nd pick.
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
I like barron with the 17th if he gets past the Jets or if Richardson doesn't fall
But with the 21st we have to get an upgrade in the secondary and we don’t need to go after a DT that early. That will leave us with a few major holes to fill in the secondary. Unless of course we address DB in FA and resign some of our players.
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
we seen this yr that we can never have too many dt
Nobody at senior bowl had displayed to me ability to be a shut down corner. If we can get Barron that a do wonders for our defense. We could trade down from 21st to me that’s best idea. I would really want Wright from Baylor though.
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
I think if we really need to address the DT we could wait till like the 3rd and 4th round
i think thats where we picked up Geno, pat sims, and peko, I believe.
But yea trading down wouldn’t be out of the question IMO
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
no offense to peko or simms
But we could use a 340+ dt. We need a dominate run stopper in middle of our defense. Peko and Simms are average at best. Neither commands the double team or scare teams from running there way.
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Jason Shirley?
pemci - January 26, 2012
Shirley
plays for the Panthers now
OhWell - January 26, 2012
I know, but he was one of those 340+ dt that pray4gm11 was mentioning...
pemci - January 26, 2012
By the way, in 4 games with the Panthers.
he had 2.5 sacks and a forced fumble….
From the moment they tried to change him to a Guard, I don’t think he ever got a really fair shake for the D line…
pemci - January 26, 2012
none taken
but thats great value to get 3 starting and productive DTs in the middle of the draft. I think having bigger size is over rated. Look at Geno, he is small for DT standards but he consistently knocks O lineman back 3 to 4 yrds and they out weigh by 20 to 30 pounds sometimes
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
plus DT that big (340 plus pounds)
tend not to play that many snaps
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
thats his speed advantage not his strength
And somebody has to start so that’s not saying nothing special. Peko and Simms are great depth players neither has proved to be starter. look how wilfork dominated the ravens game. He dictated what the ravens could do because u can’t move him out his gap.
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
I wouldn't say Peko and Simms are slouches, there great at maintaing their gaps and pushing the line back
but how many players are like Wilfork in the NFL?
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
Peko is not a starter?
Are you kidding me? He has been borderline Pro-Bowler for a few years now, he just does not get the recognition he deserves….
pemci - January 26, 2012
its becase he doesn't get that many sacks, so he is often over looked
but I knew he was good when Marvin signed him to an extension in his third year with the bengals. That kinda shows you something about him.
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
I think Peko can be upgraded. He’s solid. Good leader, great anticipation and play recognition. Good tackler and has a decent blend of agility & strength. But Doesn’t play very physical when engaged. Doesn’t break blocks. Dances instead of attacking at times. Not a penetrator. Average NFL starter.
Joe Goodberry - January 26, 2012 via Android app
I'd say that's his leverage/strength advantage.
Yeah, he’s quick for a lineman, but he consistently pushed taller lineman back towards the QB.
Animal_Like_Football - January 26, 2012
Of course the WR are looking better than the DB
Thats how it usually is. Its a lot easier for a WR to get thrown out on a practice field, run routes and catch balls than it is for DB’s to go out there and try to defend it.
EPK1979 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
thats what they gotta do on next level
And outside of cb/wr match up defense is dominating the offense. So that’s not usually how it us. Defense is ALWAYS ahead of the offense.
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04&feature=related
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
how lame
U didn’t wanna hear the experts when they said we were worse team in football. But when they say what u wanna hear its cool. Like I said Jenkins was my guy a week ago I loved the kid. But every play I’ve seen against WEAK wr he’s struggled this weak. If u can’t stop Joe Adams how can u match up against any top wr in our division?
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Hey news flash
the experts were wrong… dude just quit spewing this garbage cause that’s what it is. You are no GM and thank the football gods for that… unless of course you were the Ravens or Steelers GM.
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
+1
pemci - January 26, 2012
but they right bout when u want them to be?
I’ve seen 6+ hrs of footage from senior bowl with my own eyes. Don’t need no expert to tell me what I’m looking at. Go back at old post I loved Jenkins from his time at Florida but he’s clearly not an up grade over Pac Man so why waste 1st on him?
pray4gm11 - January 26, 2012 via mobile
Sorry, I've read your comments
Definitely not going to take your word for it. You obviously don’t have the eye for this sort of thing.
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
because you’re not drafting for 2012, you’re drafting for 2012-2016 at the least
Joe Goodberry - January 26, 2012 via Android app
If we drafted him, he would play the best WR in our division.
AJ is on our team lol
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
woundn't play the best WR in our division***
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
On Pead
Bearcats’ Pead bets versatility will help job search
He is impressing though, namely on special teams.
Oregonbengalsfan - January 26, 2012
if he can gain a few pounds and increase his speed by his pro day... he will slide in the 2nd round
but don’t get me wrong, I would be excited if we could wait to the 3rd round to pick him up
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
and if the flash had superman's powers too
he’d be kickass too..
palewook - January 26, 2012
right...
some of you guys make it seem impossible for a player to gain wieght. lol I bet you most players that make it in the NFL gain weight, you almost have too.
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
i'm saying, what you are talking about is drafting a project
thats where you take a guy with X ability and ask him to gain Y ability. as a drafting strategy that adds an additional risk into the equation. generally if you are going to draft a project, you never do it before round 3 and you have a starter in place in case the project takes awhile to work out (years).
couple of bengals projects i can think of, stacey andrews, which did work out for 2 seasons, took 2 seasons to get there, so we drafted him a later rounds, had him for 4 years and got 2 seasons.
another bengals project that comes to mind, probably the worst crash and burn(ed) project brown gambled on, 1st round pick, Reinard Wilson, too small to be a DE in the NFL. taken to be converted into a LB.
the idea of drafting pead for his speed, then asking him to bulk up, is a gamble x2. would be best to draft him for what he can do and not what you hope he might be able to do.
palewook - January 26, 2012
i wouldn't draft Pead just for his speed, which isn't top end by any means
I would draft Pead because of his feet work, hands and vision… in which we need an upgrade in our back field
I wouldn’t consider gaining weight much of a project. That should come natural being in a NFL weight room, with professional trainers supplementing your diet. I think the whole weight thing is kinda over rated.
AMAS85 - January 26, 2012
on drafting DB's
Are the d b’s that are coming in to the draft that much better than any of the dbs we already have? or are the db coming from teams that have very impressive defensive fronts. Ex. Jjoe was amazing on our team but when he went to the texans now he’s a pro bowler
towery10 - January 26, 2012
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