Cincy Jungle

Because some have asked, here's the rankings on the CBs I've graded so far...

1) Mo Claiborne – LSU
2) Dre Kirkpatrick – Bama
3) Stephon Gilmore – S.Car
4) Janoris Jenkins – N.Alabama
5) Casey Hayward – Candy
6) Jamell Fleming – Oklahoma
7) Leonard Johnson – Iowa St
8) Chase Minnefield – Virginia
9) Alfonzo Dennard – Nebraska
10) Josh Norman – Coastal Car
11) Brandon Boykin – Georgia
12) Jayron Hosely – Va tech
13) Trumaine Johnson – Montana
14) Asa Jackson – Cal Poly
15) Donnie Fletcher – B.C.
16) Dwight “Bill” Bentley – Lafayette
17) Ryan Steed – Furman

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

question:

do you sleep?

Seriously… 4-5 hours a night until May 1st.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

i figured... but keep up the good work... your insight is much needed

I think

he’s hooked up to an IV pumping coffee

Good stuff. I'm interested to see how Bently plays today? Intrigued by him

I'm going to have to check out Gilmore...

Dwight Carter - January 28, 2012 reply

Where's the University of Candy?

I wish I went there!

Vandy. I’m on my phone = Autocorrect lol

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

I know I'm just playin

Trumaine Johnson

Why so low? If he played in a bigger school he would be 1st round. He;s a ball hawk along with Casey Hayward that’s exactly the type of CB we haven’t got. Josh Robinson?

Exactly. In a deep class, small schoolers will be ranked lower. He’s still a 3rd rounder. Haven’t watched Johnson. I won’t rank somebody I haven’t watched.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

I meant Robinson. I haven’t watched.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

That was a shock declaration

Yeah. He’s on my lost coming up

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

list*

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Love this Bobby Wagner LB. Can’t wait to get into more games of his. He really stood out in practices.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

This draft is huge on LB we really should draft one

Might see Pead next.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

i think Martin will go back out since he didn't get any touches

Good work

I’ve seen him in 3 games and the opposing QB just don’t throw it near him or his stats would be much higher

Interested to see how OLB Sean Spence plays

He had a pretty solid week at practice, and considering that Zimmer is on record as saying, “We have to improve at EVERY LEVEL on defense”, I expect to Bengals to really focus on defensive playmakers at all positions. Rivers and Howard enter the final years of their contract, and Manny is an UFA. Moch provides no guarentees, either. I think this defense desperately needs defensive playmakers. I like Sean Spence and we’ll see how he plays today.

How do you feel about Barron?

I know he plays safety but I agree we need an upgrade at a play making position. But SS last year was the biggest liability on the defense. Think if Crocker would have just gotten 2 INT this year, it could have changed the out come of the year… not joke.

no joke*

Love Barron

If drafted by the Bengals, we would have the Red Rifle, and a Barron (I.e. a Red Baron – great pizza, and even greater ad campaign back in the day)

Joe....

How long to you think Doug Martin stays on the board in the draft?

Jason Garrison - January 28, 2012 reply

I’ve seen people have him as high as late first and as low as early third. I personally think he’ll be available when the Bengals pick in round 2.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

what number is our 2nd round pick?

For those who asked for my updated RB rankings...

1) Richardson – Bama
2a) Doug Martin – Boise
2b) Chris Polk – Washington
2c) Lamar Miller – Miami
5) David Wilson – Va Tech
6) Bernard Pierce – Temple
7) LaMicheal James – Oregon
8) Isaiah Pead – Cincy
9) Robert Turbin – Utah St
10) Vick Ballard – Mississippi St
11) Terrance Ganaway – Baylor
12) Tauren Poole – Tenn
13) Dan Herron – OSU
14) Cyrus Gray – Texas A&M
15) Chris Rainey – Florida
16) Bryce Bell – Houston
17) Marc Tyler – USC
18) Antwon Bailey – Syracuse
19) Jonas Gray – N.D.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

why James so low?

Here is my top 5

Martin
Richardson
James
Pead
Ganaway

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Size, injuries, not as fast as you’d think. Others are better.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

yea i agree about James

here is my updated top five

1. Richardson
2. Pead
3. Martin
4. James
5. Miller

love your rankings joe

palewook - January 28, 2012 reply

2.21

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

so we have the 53rd pick in the 2nd

no way Martin stays on the board past 40. Washington will pick him up with their 2nd round pick if they don’t address it in the first

They drafted 2 RBs last year. Nobody can guarantee that a specific team is drafting somebody in January. FA hasn’t even happened yet.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

very true, but to pick up a potential Ray Rice

you really think shanahan will pass up on that value int he 2nd? Shanahan is a RB nut.

I really couldn’t tell you. I bet he’ll want a ZBS type RB. Not sure Martin is that. He may want Miller or Polk. Or even Pead.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

yea the more I watch pead vs the other backs, the more it makes sense for the bengals to pick him up

if you look at the plays the Pead is more successul at… its out of the shotgun. With a slot or TE and two WR. To me it sounds like he would excell under Gruedens style offense.

Miller would be tempting but then we would have to adjust our style of offense back to last year and think we are going to let gruden do his thing,

AMAS

How do you really feel about Pead?

lil10isman - January 29, 2012 reply

lol i hope your kidding, right?

AMAS85 - January 29, 2012 reply

Tampa bay might too

Dwight Carter - January 28, 2012 reply

yea there will be 5 RB taking by the 53rd pick

almost every other team can use a fresh RB year in and year out. The average RB is in the league about 3 yrs. Traditionally speaking.

I’m thinking 3-5 taken by pick 53. It could leave options 4, 5, & 6

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

one team i suspect might be looking for a rb in the 2nd - 3rd round and not considered a threat to draft one

the pats.

BenJarvus Green-Ellis will be a free agent and hasn’t been all that for the pats in 2011

palewook - January 28, 2012 reply

thats what I was think about pead

i think he maybe a perfect fit for the pats offense

Might be time for him to get replaced

But he’s been useful and is kind of what they look for in their RBs.

Doc Scratch - January 28, 2012 reply

Washington?

They had 2 rookies this year that each had 100 yard games. Guys I wanted in the 3rd and 6th rounds, respectively, in Helu and Royster. I don’t see them taking a RB in the first few rounds with all the other needs they have.

like?

besides QB

Aside from their biggest need?

Pass rushers, WRs, DT, S..

they were last place in a very weak division

they’re not a QB and a RB away from greatness

aren't they in a division with Dallas, Eagles, and Giants? I don't think their division is weak by any means

Just because ESPN thinks it's the most important division in football doesn't mean it's a good one

The Giants won the division with 9 wins. The Eagles were just flat horrible. The only months the Cowboys are in the playoff discussion are every single August and September, when they’re in the top 5 for super bowl favorites despite sucking every single year. It’s not a strong division.

i don't think its the best division but its defenately not weak

Their division is like our division where we consistantly send teams to the conference championship games. I tihnk becuase of the competition between divisonal teams.

I disagree, but it's not really relevant anyway

we’re talking about a team with 2 impressive rookies at RB and whether they’ll draft yet another RB in the 2nd round. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

especially when you consider who their coach is

can see maybe a DT

no way Shanahan passes Martin up in the second. I think their Oline can take a lot of credit for those 100 yrd games

They play 3-4

they aren’t taking Martin in round 2

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

no matter how good your line is

you don’t have consistent 100 yard games rushing with absolutely no pass attack. Helu is a stud.

Martin is more of a 3rd – 4th rounder

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

doug martin?

I thought Mike Martin because you brought up DT

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

no im talking about doug martin and how Shananhan wont pass him up if he is there in the 2nd

i have a feeling with the buzz he is getting and a strong combine

Martin can probably slide into the first

Martin is a lock for 1st

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Richardson is barely a lock for the 1st

lol IDK about that

So how long till this game starts?

Rainey and Pead my MVP’s

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Bears just hired a new General Manager...

Question though: what’s a “General Manager”?

What the bengals orgainization like to call a HC lol

get a guy willing to do both jobs for the price of one...

NFL network analyst had some good things to say about Dalton

Marshall Faulk hit it spot on for Andy. Faulk said Dalton was good at throwing WR open and that he adjusted to pro’s very well. The only knock Dalton would be his arm strength, he still has area’s of improvment

Reps and weight room for Dalton this offseason!!!

He needs to get with Brees this offseason!!!

Dwight Carter - January 28, 2012 reply

there is little doubt in my mind that Dalton cant get stronger

I just think he never really had to with his intangibles. Dalton has good anticipation so he probably didn’t have to throw as hard or deep in high school and college. Hopefully he can develop an elite arm in a few years.

get him on a couple cycles of the juice this offseason

JCompton41 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

damn can't this game start already lol

I'm focusing on:

Cordy Glenn on this first drive. Watch with me.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

He’s playing LT.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

lol sorry im watching CBs

Jamell Flemming with the strip! He’s a fighter.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

im watching the clock tick time away

So I can go home and watch

JCompton41 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

same here

got it waiting on my DVR!

JoeskiBroski - January 28, 2012 reply

i didnt even think to set mine

Being out till 2 am then working at 9 didn’t leave my mind time to think.

JCompton41 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

I'm at work

and we don’t have the freaking NFL network here. Work at Sears & have 13 TV’s set ut on display and NO NFL NETWORK! lol

JoeskiBroski - January 28, 2012 reply

Damnit - had to leave my house, so I have to record this game. I will watch the tape. Hope Glenn doesn't disappointt

no joe adams

please

Polk looks good

why does polk remind me of micheal turner lol

That's why you like Polk

patience & vision on that run. Always falls forward.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Was a real good run

Mexal - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

That's why you wouldn't like Polk

not laterally explosive Couldn’t bounce it outside

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

+1

we don't need another benson

+1

Polk is a weapon as a receiver. That’s why he’s different.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

im sure he has decent hands but he just doesn't seem shifty enough to be an effect WR

Great hands. In open field? you think a CB wants to tackle him? That’s what Benson does NOT offer.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

but

don’t we have Leonard for that?

if healthy

and Leonard is our 3rd down back. thats what where he is the most effective

you don’t want a complete RB?

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

+1

how is polk

a complete back if he doesn’t have lateral explosion

because he can play all 3 phases of the position. You never have to take him off the field.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

good come back

Most CBs in the league now are sure tacklers. Its not its the late 90's or early 2000's any more

except

antonio crowmartie (spelling)

lol thats one out of 64 CBs

i know

but i laugh every time some runs at him, it’s hilarious

I meant RB, but esentially he is a WR if he goes out to catch a pass

there is that ganaway I heard people talking about!

big, powerful, straight line speed. No agility or lateral explosion

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

i like that DT from washington, whats his rank?

late 1st to mid 2nd

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

damn... he might be worth while for the 2nd

Weeden is impressive actually

if he wasnt 29, he’d go top 12

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

age is only a number

its more about how many games you played… some people are late bloomers. I think age can be over rate, IMO

but it means he’s maxes out physically and maybe mentally.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

maybe if he waited till his mid 30's to come back and play football but mid 20's should cause someone to max out physically or mentally if the were meant to be in the NFL

im guess martin is the next back in

might see Pead next

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

hope so

martin is looking real good

As Mayock pointed out

Glenn at LG got pushed backwards

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

have they split his time at G/T so far?

JoeskiBroski - January 28, 2012 reply

i think he was in at LT that play

I saw Zebrie Sanders to his left. Unless it was an unbalanced line…

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

your probably right, i caught the end of the play

yup

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

damn that play was for Martin lol

pi on hayward

draw martin

on i-...

never mind

Doc Scratch - January 28, 2012 reply

neither team

is attempting the run…aaarrrggghhh, don’t they know we need to evaluate the RB’s?

there keeping secrets is my opinion, how to keep a player on the down low?

do let him run the ball lol

don't let him run the ball***

Martin actually had a nice cut block

He’s a complete RB also.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

i saw that, that was an awesome block

im kinda mad they just havn’t handed the ball to him.

PI should be a 15 yard penalty in the NFL

too many games decided by 35, 40 yard penalties that are judgement calls

n8dogg - January 28, 2012 reply

and lose all those huge penalties against AJ Green? sometimes those were the best offensive plays of the game

goes both ways though

it sucks when we are on the other end of the call. Just seems ridiculous that a Personal Foul gets you 15 yards but a ticky tack hand check can get you half the football field.

n8dogg - January 28, 2012 reply

of course

but green has a knack for drawing them

+1

This penalty has defined outcomes of many games…needs to be changed

ticalcaldwell - January 28, 2012 reply

and that damn hitting a defensless player penalty

what would stop a defender from interfering on any play over 15 yards?

Jason Blanton - January 28, 2012 reply

you see Martin make that dude miss on the fake?

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

I did

that was a nice play action, I really thought he had the ball lol

Marvin Jones is the best WR in this game

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Where is he slated?

Late 1st to mid 2nd?

late 2nd – 3rd

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

The Jones kid from Cal has supposedly had a good week.

Glenn at LG

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

I wouldn't mind having a player like Rainey.

The Bengals need game-breaking speed on offense.

Criner looks just like Brandon Lloyd

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

I like Criner

Saw a lot of him out here on the west coast.

Derek Wolfe

Cincinnati’s best prospect imo

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

lol that stings

but i don’t know enough about him

on twitter..

I read someone say he’s best fit for a 5 tech.. do you agree? I think he can play as a traditional 2/3 tech DT in a 4-3.

He'd look magnicent next to Atkins

Not as a starter, I wouldn’t want two small DTs starting

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

like that DT from washington better

Who do you like as DT in draft Joe?

I haven't finished my rankings at DT yet

but…
1)Brockers
2) Still
3) Cox
4) Worthy
5) Ta’amu
6) Thompson
Those are the guys going top 2 rounds

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

I think he can play everywhere. That’s where his value rises. 3-4 & 4-3 teams will want him. 5-tech or under tackle in a 4-3.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

think Pead and Wolfe are the last of Coach Kellys recruits from cincy that will make an impact in the NFL

Is Duenta Williams FS eligible for this draft?

ashunte23 - January 28, 2012 reply

from NC?

#commentsFrom2011

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Pead in

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Wow Kellen Moore looks lost..

Not much help from the line though..

lol copples = peppers clone

Coples is ridiculous

The guards are playing T

horrible blocking lol

There's the good & bad with Pead

He’s quick & laterally explosive, but lacks vision and isn’t strong in tackles. Also, they’ve replaced him with Herron on last two pass plays. Can’t block yet.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

how was vision an issue with his run?

there was no hole

I think it's indecision.

Between the tackles if there isn’t an obvious hole like you said, he sort of sits and thinks for a second instead of just attacking. Gets swallowed up.

lol there was no in decision there

You're making me seriously want to rewind.

I remember it differently.

please do

Just went back to his run.

He sits in the pocket and the intended hole opens up, he sees zack brown and decides to take it right where a new hole has opened. Zack Brown gets blocked and that original hole stays open while the one he chose gets closed. So maybe it wasn’t indecision, just a bad decision. Not trusting his line I guess.

the first run he had the chance to cut back. There’s different kinds of vision: Vision to the hole & Vision after the LOS.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

There's Pead's value!!!

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

vision in open space or after the LOS is where Pead is at his best.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

that is what Benson lacks

Vision…he has the physical side of it…missing vision

ticalcaldwell - January 28, 2012 reply

lol there is nothing wrong with Peads vision

there was nothing on that run, he had no blocking.

That open field vision and elusiveness.

He’s a total bounce it outside, screen, checkdown guy.

those are his strengths but if you watch his film

he would fit really good in Grudens style offense, Pead isn’t going to run inside the tackles like Steven jackson, but he sitill good enough to get a few yards. But if ever gets space, he can take it all the way

and thats why I rank him where I do.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

i get that and its just a matter of opinion what you want your RB to do

but I really think we are moving away from that one back system where the RB takes the load and runs it up the middle.

I'm not sure sure we're moving away from up the middle

seemed like that’s all they had B. Scott do this past season and that isn’t his strength

lol im not saying your never going to run up the middle, Im saying, they style is moving away from the middle

meaning that play calling for running plays isn’t primarly going to the middle

I'm not seeing it.

We hardly went outside

because we had benson

not pead or martin …. I think Marvin will let Gruden do his thing and you can tell by the end of the season we kinda went away from the traditional running game

But we also had Scott

and they played to his strengths most of the time and that was to the out side

i know you have to run it up the middle every now and to keep the defense honest

No most of Scott's runs were up the middle

Couldn't understand why they kept running him up the middle

when his strength is to the outside

lol question that too

i just know his bigger runs were to the outside and i figured he had mroe carries to the outside

which would make the most sense

well then we definately need an upgrade at RB

Yeah, and I'm not trying to knock Pead

but if he isn’t going outside, I don’t think he’ll be any more effective than Benson or Scott up the middle

he can

I was fortunate to wych them plat Tenn. he had his best runs up there gut

*watch

and play*

and their...dangit

i think he will do fine with draws or just a hand off from shot gun up the middle

he will still do his thing, he isn’t going to push the pile is what im saying,

no, but

if he gets to the second level, watch out

That's on the line

But yeah if the line opens a hole for him

I agree, watch out

And unless we really upgrade the line

we’ll need a back who can push the pile.

And I do like Pead, just not as a main or prominent back

that's why

we need to get G and CB in 1st and Pead in 2nd, no way he makes it to 3rd now

lol wow that was crazy

we practically said the same thing at the same time

thats why we go for a OG and CB in the first

and Pead in the seconde, he will be long gone in the 3rd if we try to wait

lol

great minds and stuff

lol we did it again

i know

all highlights are of Pead,lol

I don't know

there a quite a few more complete backs to think they’ll all be gone in the 2nd to early 3rd

only time witll tell

Very true

ball with space

he would be more than just a returner… just wait till gets some space after a handoff

He needs to create space also

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

its hard to creat space if your line is getting blown up on the play

You sound like the guy’s girlfriend ;)

that first run he was 3 yards gained already.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

I think we maybe talking about two different runs, but the one where he got tackled at the LOS is the one im talking about

why didn’t he return more punts?

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

didn't want to get him hurt

thats what im thinking

and he got the ball 80 percent of the of the time he was in. he had to stay fresh too

I'll take Pead just for a PR man

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

I wish I could see him run against a real special teams unit.

but the ability he flashes is insane.

this game must be tough to get a rythem going

PEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAD

ticalcaldwell - January 28, 2012 reply

wow nice return by pead.

thats his 2nd nice one

u just got pead on

Pead again with a great punt return

dude is amazing in the open field

lol his has been doing it since high school. Have u checked out that hight video I post at the top of this post?

I didn't yet

I will

lol the file is kinda bad but the run he has at the 28th second mark was insane

pead, over 100 all purpose yards and counting

Doug Martin and Janoris Jenkins have barely played

Im disappointed

me too about Martin

i wish they would just hand it to him to see what he really has

Total Ohio State play..

Adams and Brewster with nice blocking, Herron draws linebacker attention, Posey with the great grab and run.

Herron showing he can catch.

and Block

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

just now watching game what i miss?

What corners looking good?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

pead winning the game for the north

see my main man pead looking good

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

told yall all week Jenkins didnt look good at practice

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

and you're the only one who thought that

Somebody said he ain’t played hardly. So caoches must thought same thing. Have u seen with ur own eyes or just hear say?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Seen with my own eyes

and as I said, You are the ONLY one saying this

well we all watching now so we shall see

And my eyes special I see everything sir

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Oh sheesh

I only saw him get burnt once all week.

And it was Rainey.

^This

It wasnt him getting.burned

It was his technique and how every play was suspect pass interference. He too me was top 10 pick, theres zero first rd wr in this game. Jenkins should look dominate against them.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

are you sure you don't mean dennard?

Sounds like Dennard

that's what i'm thinking

na denard shouldnt even been invited

Jenkins didn’t look.gorrible, but remember his probably highest rated player there. His going up against mid round talent wr. He hasn’t looked as good as Hayward or Bentley.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

My steam just took a dump

*stream

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/29948/1/senior-bowl—-nflnetwork-live-stream-online.html

Streams been good here

cool thanks

Hayward best corner I've seen all week

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Again he gets his head around and gets in good position

cousins=udfa

I like Cousins

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

As a clipboard kinda QB or future starter?

Developmental QB, spot starter. Chad Pennington type

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

don't know a whole about him except the hail mary vs wisconsin

me too, jk

Ouch. The North trying it's hardest to waste Pead's field position.

Casey Heyward is having a whale of a game

Aside from a PI, he’s making plays.

and the pi was questionabld at best

*questionable

He’s my #5. I really like his ball skills & toughness

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

2nd round talent?

late 2nd early 3rd

imo

Solid 2nd round.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Wouldn't it be a better pick up for the Bengals to get in him the 2nd than draft Dennard?

WOOD98 - January 29, 2012 reply

Dennard is a 2nd round pick anyway

Joe Goodberry - January 29, 2012 via Android app reply

Pead for MVP?

So far. No doubt.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

at least for the first half so far, but its still pretty early

this game seems pretty slopy or is most senoir bowls sloppy?

most are

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

hopefully martin gets some touches

There we go

very ray riceish

i wouldn't mind taking Martin in the first and pead in the second. Serously

we would have the complet back field for the WCO sylish offense.

let go of Bernard

^This

not me

want G, CB in 1st, Pead in 2nd and someone like Ganaway in 4th or 5th

and

don’t get me wrong, if Martin is there in 2nd, snatch him

true about ganaway, that would make more sense

I would take a guard over that second runningback any day

there you go

Coples

He’s been impacting a lot

because he is a top 5 talent going to against a back up lol

not really

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

whats the tackle rated that he is going against with?

#5 OT, #4 OG

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

would he start on most teams?

Oh yeah. He’s a late first to mid 2nd round pick.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

damn, coples must be the real deal then

whats the tackle rated that he is going against with?

see the difference as a runner Martin is?

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Thats why i say jenkins struggled this week

He also is top 5 talent and is not standing out. Pretty soon you’ll hear bout a injury. Watch what I tell yall

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

i still think

your thinking of Alfonzo dennard

Play on totally different teams and one has dreads. Bentley is a sleeper pick though.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Really like Kelemete.

how is martin looking?

Joe who IS this Robinson cat?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Robinson is a big slow guy. Not much of anything. Maybe a red zone threat in the NFL at best.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Looked like Simpson.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

sounds like alshon jeffery

never been a fan

good block by martin.

i thoght it was holding initially

Well I was about to say this

but then the announcer said it… but He is a complete football back

Awful attempt at a tackle by 24 who's that

Crocker Lil brother

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Perfect fit for the Steelers

we hope

It was Dequan Menzie

=1

+1 *

im winning so far

From first day of practice I said Pead was best player in senior bowl and that Jenkins didn’t look to good. I also said Adams was best wr

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

winning what?

crimeny dude, it’s not a competition

My scouting skills on display.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

LOL

No comment

lol well he has been right so far about this week and the senor bowl

Umm been reading his comments?

all week long?

true, I havn't but i did see he did say jenkins was over rated

and Ive been one of peads biggest supporters on here and he agreed about some of the things i was saying

And Jenkins has been shining in Senior bowl practices

and haven’t noticed him screwing up in this game. Granted I haven’t been able to watch 100% of it, but point stands.

lol and agreeing with you makes him riight?

"lol and agreeing with you makes him riight?'

not that he agreed with me but I can confirm what he is saying. And so yes that makes him right because pead has been out performing everyone so far

Considering all purpose

yes he has been out performing eveyone

but thats important because it set up scoring drives

i can't wait till he gets another series to run the ball

I want to see more too

I’ve watched videos and I liked what I’ve seen, but haven’t been impressed with him as a RB today

just wait till they hand it off to him in a shotgun formations

I don’t like rotation at all from neither side. It’s stuff to tell who in game

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

*tough

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Martin has looked very good

in all phases

Also saw some good runs by Wilson

but I missed a lot of his snaps due to losing the stream

except specila teams right

I've missed a bunch of special teams

but was talking all phases of a complete back. Rushing, catching, pass blocking, play action…

lol just messing with man, i just don't do that wink thing

Hah!

Competing against no one

is the best way to win.

Harrison Smith covering the TE well

+1

i really like smith in the third but not before

glenn not living up to billing

and i don’t care that the anouncer loves him

i think we have to stay away from glenn...he seems to much like andre early in his career

I did a live mock over the past few days. (3 Rounds)

I drafted for the Bengals and selected DeCastro (1.17) Stephon Gilmore (1.21) – Doug Martin (2.21) – Harrison Smith (3.21)

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

love it!

would be a fan of this

whats the chances that martin actually is there in the second when we pick though

Depends. Draft is a long way away.

Lots of RBs, don’t think more than 1 or 2 will go in first.

i saw 2 or 3 in the first and 3-4 in the second

Draft isn't too rich in first round talent.

I think teams will shy away from backs in the first in order to get more of a “sure thing”.. but I could be way off. Draft is very far away.

richardson, miller and Martin look like they maybe selected in the first

thats what i was saying, the are like 3 or 4 teams that would love to pick him up in the 2nd before we can think about it

if we arent sold on someone at 21 i would be a huge fan of trading for a second and a third as it seems like this draft is deep

slim to none

although, Pead would most definately be

it will be close that pead will drop to us in the second

no way in the 3rd, pats will pick pead up in the late 2nd at least

after they just took vereen and ridley last year?

i don't see why that matters? if they need an upgrade in the back field and i think ellis green is a FA

yes, but RB isnt more a need for the patriots than any other team

just curiosu why you listed the pats

by the way Pead runs and his ability work in space would fit the pats offense so well and make them much more scary on offense

Out of curiosity, who are you?

Your sig says “Contributor” but you just joined and I don’t recognize your name.

Been doing this for 2 years now. Joined in 2007 under the name “Firstpick”

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

I know who you are :)

Yeah I’m dumb

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

first article just posted :)

check it out!

I didn't doubt you were a contributor

Was just wondering if you were a known user who changed your username.

formerly 'BeWarned', since you asked

drop?

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Yea, I think he is a top five RB and every other team needs a change of speed back/ returner

it will be close

Good

He ranks between 2-5 on RB rankings. So it depends on how many RBs you think get selected between pick 17 and 53. I don’t think more than 3 will be taken in that time.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

although if polk keeps playing like this we can get him in the seventh :)

Yeah that draft rocks!

Who is smith upgrade over?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

CROCKER!!!

Bingo

alhtough i think we could put cordy glen back there at this point and it be an upgrade

LMAO

now that’s funny and probably true

could u imagine him coming up to the LOS on a hand off...im terrified when i get through that hole!

That’s not what need in 3rd then. U get get undrafted free agent to replace Crocker

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

See below

Everyone but Nelson

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

ok

If Smith, Brookes and Joe Adams on board still in 3rd, who do we take?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

smith

those are my only choices? lol

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

lol

I’m in love with Adams, and Brooks look like something special at next level

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

"I drafted for the Bengals and selected DeCastro (1.17) Stephon Gilmore (1.21) – Doug Martin (2.21) – Harrison Smith (3.21)"

gm of the year if you could actually get that draft

palewook - January 28, 2012 reply

UH YEA

I would be pretty thrilled if thats what we end up with

I like it as well but I would go Miller over Gilmore, Hayward over Martin

EPK1979 - January 30, 2012 via mobile reply

Literally my dream draft

in response to above^

which secondary player playing like 1st rd talent

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

most of the 1st round projections

are juniours and not playing in this game

This

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Who?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

clairebourne, kirkpatrick

only sure fires

at DB? Claiborne, Kirkpatrick, Barron, Gilmore

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

joe what do u think of iloka,...sems rangy and long

Exactly what he is rangy & long. So long that it hurts his ability to change directions quickly and get to full speed quickly. 3rd round.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

sounds like sands

not as long and Go-go gadget as Sands.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

So would you prefer Sands?

No. I gave Sands a 7-PFA grade. I think he’s a special teamer with spot starter chances. I didn’t like him.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Me either, the pick was a total head scratcher. :(

Man i hated all our lower rounds picks all projects

and Mays

with an off season, can he be a starter in your opinion

Yes. While he lacks necessary skills to be an All Pro, he can definitely be a starter in the NFL. Problem is, Nelson & Mays would be a bad combination.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

yeah, can see that

both lacking in coverage?

Yup and Nelson is a dummy

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

still could have two guys taht could lay the wood

lol nelson a dummy?

Nelson could be a top five safety

Direct from a scout I talked to: "Nelson was the dumbest interviewee I’ve ever gad st the combine. He literally had no idea about Defensive schemes. He said “I play center field. I don’t know.”"

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

*had at

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

well i don't know anything about that

but from what I have seen from him, by performance, he was the second best defensive player we had last year.

I agree. Dumb players can be good. You just have to control his assignments. And they do that. Jacksonville didn’t.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Might be really bad that we are losing Coyle then.

The Dolphins took him for his ability to teach anyone, or so I’ve read. Perhaps Nelson’s improvement is more Coyle teaching than Zimmer/scheme. Hmm..

It could be. I thought of that also.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

bad teacher then

It’s seems only players seeing a shot at playing time is the top draft picks. How many years we then took a corner if safety late and he developed?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Or

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Said that yesterday got blasted. That’s why Barron is #1 priority, he is qb of defense.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

i like barron too

but we will know for sure what direction they will go after FA

what about

Clements and Mays, Clements is a solid tackler with good to great coverage skills if he’s got the play in front of him, the problem with him is his loss of speed, imo

rather have Clements & Nelson

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

+1

start a rookie or resign pacman

Are you saying we should start the CB we draft this year

he would need to start at least 6 games

either hall and jones

or rookie and hall if healthy, jones if not

im thinking hall will be on the pup list

me too

but everybody heals differently

Robert Sands.

Joe Adams = Victor Cruz?

Adams is maybe the 2nd fastest player in this draft.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Behind who?

Rainey?

yup

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

In height and frame he’s very close to Cruz. And they both extend towards the ball much more than it would appear possible. Both sure handed guys who don’t trap and body catch balls. I think Adams is a bit faster but Cruz has better body control.

Kellen's showing all the throws

Side arm noodle

at this rate we will get polk as a udfa

rankings/grades don’t change that much from this game.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

sarcasm lol

joe i have off topic?

If Nelson avg more solo tackles in Jax how did we revive his career? He had 5int as a rookie, look at his stats his solo tackles have slacked off.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Not this again

I dont know how Jax used him in his last couple years there, but Zimmer does a hell of a job keeping him out of trouble. (I really don’t look at stats. I can’t help you with what you’re asking.)

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

I dont either I hate stats

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

LOL Your whole argument about Nelson

was based on stats

lol

yes to prove my point to yall

I had to break it down, yesterday u made it like you don’t follow nobody but us. Nelson.been a decent player and to he still needs to be upgraded. Can’t just be an athletic at safety.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

With who?

You didn't prove anything

EVERYONE else proved the opposite point to you but you wouldn’t listen

"yesterday u made it like you don’t follow nobody but us."

and wth does that mean?

Joe

Creer? Didn’t see him in your rankins above and noticed he was MVP of East – West game. Where does he rank with you?

I haven’t had the chance to watch him yet. I don’t get too many Louisiana Tech games to watch. I’ll get to him eventually.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

How big is your to watch list

I'm over 130 players now.

Still have 200 to go.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Wow good luck with sleep

lol thats what i am saying

I’d rather you send luck regarding my relationship with my fiance lol

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Adams playing his way into 1st

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Joe Adams?

No way.

No way

He’s a #3 WR in the NFL and return man. 3rd rounder. MAYBE late 2nd.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

speed kills

Going to be fastest at combine, hands look solid. And don’t forget his money is return man. He could easily give u 6-8 tds next year

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

people dont draft "money" return men in the first round

He’s a slot WR only. You do realize that the defenses are in off coverage in this game, right? He wont win in the NFL on the outside.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

he's a wco guy

Give him a slant or screen and let him go. Trust everyone gets bigger when they get to next level, u can teach that. I can’t teach nobody speed!!!

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

is he going to get taller?

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

how tall is welker?

Size mean nothing when u have heart and the will to get it done. We already have our two big guys. Think about what a faster and quicker Hawkins would’ve been?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

If only they measured heart at the combine...

That’s why I’m saying we wont take him and why others wont in first two rounds. Because he’s a slot WR.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

welker would get drafted over 95% of teams traditional #1's

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

to play the slot, no?

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Funny

I could swear he was undrafted.

Obviously Pead’s best play of the night.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

but thats important because

it shows pead can be productive in an unknown situation

This is what I'm talking about...

“Special eyes” mmhmm

this dude swings for the fences with his comments thats for sure

Wouldn't be so bad

if he would ever give ground… but he’s right or he’s right…

Whos he think he is...TEBOW?

Well he has 1st rd talent that’s for sure.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

No he doesn't

not in the NFL

So nobody in this game going in 1st rd? He is one of top #5 players in game

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

why because they are playing off coverage so he can gain 10 yards a catch...HE CANT BEAT PRESS COVERAGE!

Thank you

I’m fed up with this guy

he is making me lose my salvation through a blog...Tebow would be so disappointed

when i dont agree with yall do i make it known?

This probably ur first time even watching Adams. Stop handling

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

LOL not first time watching Adams

been watching him for quite some time… always watching college ball. And yes you do make it known when you don’t agree. You call anyone who doesn’t agree with you dumb, stupid or some form of the same.

thats ur problem

I wasn’t even talking to u!!! What u got multiple names on here?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

yall isn't one person

ur is singular dude

That comment was for him.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

ur

is not a word.

Exactly

"when i dont agree with yall do i make it known?"

read it, you typed it

And it’s an open thread

And don't change the subject when you get called out

I've seen plenty of him

Yes really good PR but no way 1st round

yes he had off regular season

But ur money is made in these type games and combine. And do remember his qb from past years was a pretty good one that he didn’t have this year.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Where did he come from?

I don’t remember him being around during the season.

Not sure

so everybody should make it look that easy then

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

coples is making it look easy and he isnt getting a ten yard head start

hence why he is a no brainer 1st rounder plus with his body of work throughout the year

top 10 pick

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Hayward is physical player.

He’ll get called for a few.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

seems like a zimmer type guy

But the ints he gets will make up for them

oh i agree. He’s my #5 CB

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

can u see us getting him in the third?

If he runs really slow. Otherwise, I think he’s a solid 2nd round pick.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Hopefully by draft we can push him up a little lol

Brewster playing stronger than he did this year for Ohio State.

What gives Brew?

i like zach brown

Lot’s of range, quick, but he looks like one of those “I can’t get off a block” kind of guys to me. Idk.

keith rivers?

thomas howard?

lol nice catch for the full back

lol

Wow what a catch by Ewing

That was nice by Pead there

dude is going to be special man

I know

been comparing him to Walter Payton all year, and been taking flack for it, I still stand by it by the way

i think he can be a lot like Marshal faulk

yeah

but Payton came to mind a long time ago and I’ve been comparing him to him since

i gotcha

but yea he has a flow to him when he runs

nice run by Pead, protected his body too...smart

Herron is similar

to Scott

lol

Really?

it's not a knock

I like Scott

the kicker might get the player of the game lol

And with the 29th pick, the Baltimore Ravens select...

LMAO

Awesome!

+1

and rec'd

it'll be Pead

he’s put them in excellent field position all game

Fleming with a pick

Looked really good position

Jenkins got his ankles broke. Lol

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

im not heath evens btw lol

Damnit

open thread and stream on same PC… missed it

Same problems here

pead killed him

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Really bad

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

with #21 pick

Bengals select Isiah Pead running back from university of Cincinnati. Lol, would he be uc first,1 st rd draft pick?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

He's not getting picked in the first though

second if he is there is awesome if it comes down to him and martin i go martin

+1

but only becuase Martin

has an NFL ready body now, Pead will be better long term imo

martin wont be there at 52, im almost sure of it

so are we picking Pead or Adams

lol

Adams with 17

and Pead with 21

and a bullet to the head in the second

LMAO

u on here just to disagree abd meat handle

I never see u give ur own opinion, what’s up with that?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Then you don't read

For the love of god

Stop handling his meat!

Is that what he's saying?

Yuck

Couldn’t understand what ever language he’s speaking

Seems like it

but your guess is as good as mine.

hahahahahahahahaha

I literally lol’ed

JCompton41 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

our opinions make sense!

Yall say the damn same thing as the announcers. I don’t wanna here that wrong analysis of game.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

there experts for a reason...you sir..well you are not!

lol

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Hope I'm too drunk to see

Do it!!!!

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

i wouldnt never pick Adams in 1st rd

That’s why I say stop handling and read. I said he playing his way into 1st rd. I had us selecting him in my mock in 4th.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

i think i saw ur mock as a place mat at mcdonalds...i put ketchup on it

upshaw and caples

Only top 10 picks in.game. They on another level, Ingram not far behind though.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Mike Adams close

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

size?

He proving himself now against the best college players in country. He been hearing this his whole life though that’s why he successful. Let the haters hate

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

‘____’

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

david had a big hit...he is playing his way into the first!

He actually might be, but he’s only 225 lbs! Undersized guys don’t get drafted high. Like Pead.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Hey it's another Johnson

We need a mock with just Johnsons

all that's left

is the MVP presentation

That's a wrap

Now to re-watch it a few times.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Joe when you do your next full Mock squeeze in a LB so many good ones

Yeah. I would like to.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

If round 1-3 go like your last..

I wouldn’t mind a LB in the 4th. Who might be there? I’d also like a receiver in the fourth though soo..

who won mvp?

Who was last MVP of senior bowl besides a qb not to go in 1st?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

was jenkins and denard hurt in this game?

Didn’t see neither one of them

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Your quote:

Jenkins got his ankles broke. Lol

So apparently he played.

THANK YOU! +1

that was a joke

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

I disagree

isnt that what all idiots say after they realize "o shit gotta think of a good come back"

that was a joke that is

Dude that was my last comment, I was being sarcastic to my cj fellas. And dude watch ur my keep the idiots to ur self.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

i call it like i see it

well call ur momma thatd only person u must been seeing

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

no my mom is at least somewhat educated

let's end it, guys

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

thank you Joe

apologies joe

Pat White, 2009

Use the Google.

u dont read

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

+1

u dont spell

who cares about spelling? I mean really?

Have you tried to read his comments?

i guess it doesn't bother me too much

right what is this a spelling class?

Oregonfan went and got his crew

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

its not as much about how bad your spelling is but more about how awful your football sense is

yall so much on my spelling and hating

Dude I the one that posted Jenkins got his ankle broke. Lol, so u might just can’t read not my spelling

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

dont take comments to heart

just let it go, its not that big of deal

u bring them both upon yourself!

Wait I have a crew?

Matt Forte

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

beat me too it and he was selected 44th

looks like Pead will fall to us

Tony Hunt and Sinorice Moss won it too.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Matt forte and was that a mistake or not?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

And Forte was 6’2" 222 lbs

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

i think Pead just proved he can compete at this weight against great talent

as a situational player. I never doubted that. I’d use him just like they did. Return game. Throw him a pass & give him 8-10 carries. I knew he could do that. I never questioned it.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

that sounds about right

i thinkg 10-15 touches on offense and special teams. At this point, but once he starts to develop in the NFL he will be able to take a lot more of the load.

well Joe

you said in another post, wait till we see how they play in the game, thoughts?

at the bottom of thread

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Pead, MVP

officially

called that earlier lol

Would never have thought that would be the case.

Good for him. Still don’t think he goes in the first—solid second rounder.

agreed, hopefully if Martin is gone we grab him

i agree, he would be the best value in the second

but you never know with the combine coming up

Aldon Smith arrested for DUI

Too bad. I liked that kid.

Following the Rey Maualuga guide to the offseason.

Pead is moving up in my RB rankings!

He was my #8 RB before this game…
Now he’s my #7 RB. He jumps LaMichael James because of his punt return ability.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

wow, I'd put him 4th

Richardson
Miller
Martin
Pead

but honestly, how many Pierce & Polk games have you watched? It’s ok if you haven’t, I’m just trying to gauge where your rankings come from.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

haven't

just watched practices and wasn’t good for Polk, great for Pead, held off judgement and waited till the game like you suggested, my opinion didn’t change

But I can’t completely change my rankings off of one All star game. I still think Polk will be a better NFL RB.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

neither can I

had them ranked the same before the game, was actually hoping Polk would show me more than he did, just for more options

My top 6 are ready to be #1 RBs on opening day. Pead is the best of the situational RBs.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

Is there a #1 in two back system? I think Ganaway and Pead would compliment each other very well.

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Sure, I think Bradshaw is the #1 while Jacobs is the #2. Ganaway & Pead would be fun and also risky. Neither can block. You’d need a 3rd down back still.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

insert Leonard

so yall would pick guy with size over MVP?

This ain’t NBA, rb don’t have time to develop. How many times taking guy with best measurements killed us? U gotta try that in later rounds. We need sure fire productive players in 1st rd. Any time u win an all star game MVP, and player of year in ur conference that’s not luck. Dude has major skills. Was best.offensive player on both teams

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Here’s the thing, my top 6 ALL HAVE SKILLS. It’s not just Pead. So if two guys have similar grades, you go with the guy with the typical NFL body.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

+1

but I think long term he’s better than all RB’s in this class

and that’s fine, but the draft doesn’t always work that way.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

that's why I agreed with you Bro.

I would not be upset with Richardson, Miller, Martin

Oh I knew you agreed

I just said it because other people are reading also. I wanted to explain.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

my reasoning

is only because he has the potential of getting hurt easier and we need to count on our #1 back

but he doesn't have an history of injuries, he will get knicked up every one does in the NFL

I know man

but he hasn’t played linebackers who run 4.5 and weigh 250lbs either

and they haven't played any one at 200 pds that can cut and move like that

but I agree he can gain a few pounds, but its not going to be a problem

Why hasn’t Michael Johnson gained weight? It’s not always a given. Developmental players don’t go until round 3 unless they’re first round picks or QBs.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

but Johnson isn't as talented as Pead

but has the skills all ready to be productive, but i don’t its out of the question for him to gain those few extra pounds to protect him self

what?

Johnson is/was dripping with raw talent. He’s as talented a DE as their is in the NFL.

Joe Goodberry - January 28, 2012 via Android app reply

to be fair to MJ

they tried him at LB, so I’m sure they told him not to lose weight, then put him back at DE, he will put it on, might see it next year hopefully

gain instead of lose*

just to clarify

he played great, but he went down awful easy when someone did get to him, he could be like Barry Sanders, where you lose 2-5 yards alot but break some big gains too

gotta know how yo usr him.

Rice had same problem with Patriots. Don’t send him up middle

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

but in the NFL

they’ll catch on to that and be waiting

supposed to be reply to pray^

which one bro?

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

so yall would pick guy with size over MVP?

that one, lol

i like polk also joe

Gonna be hard to read him though. Just brings it on game day

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Pead had a nice game but

No way he goes in the first. Maybe if he lights up the 40 at the combine. I still see him as a 2nd to 3rd rounder. I think he will have a productive career as a change of pace back and return man. He doesn’t have the frame to be a feature back in this league but thats ok, a team will still get a pretty good player. As far as some people on CJ that compared him to Payton, they must have never seen him play.

and im sure people thought CJ2K didn't have a frame to be a feature back too

True but

He also has 4.2 speed. Also, I think Chris Johnson will be closer to what he was this year than his 2,000 yard season, going forward with his career.

It was me, I'll stand by what I say

I’m 37 and have seen Payton, Faulk and Sanders, and in my opinion Pead compares to all 3 of them, I could be wrong, but I’d be willing to bet I’m not

i agree with you a 100% i see the same thing you see

when i watch pead play. Every step he takes has a purpose. I hope the bengals don’t miss this guy in the second round.

if he compare to sanders, peyton and smith

Why wait till 2nd? Them hall of famers

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

cause it's his

potential, there’s also a reason why I’m not an NFL scout, lol, not like the Bengals would hire me anyway :(

pead is special

Bengals going to take him, we just go trade down to grab him

pray4gm11 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

i hope he falls to us in the 2nd because we all know the bengals wont trade up

AMAS85 - January 29, 2012 reply

Wasn't trying to disrespect

Payton was one of the greatest I have seen as was Sanders and as much as I think Pead will have a good career, Pead will never come close to those players. I respect your bold prediction and being a UC fan I hope your right but I just don’t see him being that big of a impact at the next level.