There has been a steady stream of mock drafts pouring out of every corner of the Internet lately and for the most part they've had the Bengals selecting a cornerback and either a running back, guard or linebacker in the first round. There's no question that there are several needs that the Bengals need to fill and luckily for them they have two first-round picks in 2012.
In SB Nation's latest mock draft, the Bengals once again select a cornerback and a running back.
First at No. 17, the Bengals select North Alabama cornerback Janoris Jenkins.
Jenkins salvaged his draft stock in Mobile as well. In practices he showed the kind of ball skills and ability to take on the biggest and best receivers that once had him considered the top corner in the country. He can play in almost any system.
After losing Johnathan Joseph and now that Leon Hall is recovering from a season-ending Achilles injury, the Bengals need a new cornerback to help shore up the team's secondary. Jenkins certainly is talented but his off-field issues may cause the Bengals to think twice about him. If Jenkins has grown up and is ready to act like a pro, he could be a great asset to any team, however, if he's going to be the next Pacman Jones, he could be destructive to any locker room.
After the Jenkins pick, at No. 21, the Bengals take a running back, but not the one you might think. In earlier mock drafts, it's been Trent Richardson but in this particular mock draft the Rams took him off the board at No. 6. Instead, the Bengals take Boise State running back Doug Martin.
Martin moved up draft boards as soon as he weighed-in at the Senior Bowl last week. That translated to the field. Martin does everything pretty well, even pass blocking. Re-signing Cedric Benson would be foolish for the Bengals when they can replace him with Martin, getting an upgrade at a much cheaper price.
The more I read about Martin, the more I like him. Still, the thought that the Bengals may not be upgrading their offensive line with this pick worries me as I doubt Martin would have much success running against AFC North defenses without a good line. However, I also doubt that Martin would be around when the Bengals went on the clock in the second round so I could understand why they'd take him here.
So there you have it. What do you think about this mock draft?
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It will be hard to upgrade the line without selecting DeCastro. Glenn & Konz would be welcomed additions but also might not be the best value at pick 21 when the 2nd round is full of near-equal talent at Guard.
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
I agree
Do you think Martin has done enough to get taken in the first round? I’m liking him more and more but I’m still not sure he’s done enough to be taken over Miller at 21.
Mexal - January 30, 2012
I think Miller & Martin will battle for the #2 RB spot and each team will have it different. He very well could be taken round 1. If they LOVE him, I wouldn’t wait until pick 53
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
if we want martin, we have to take him at 21. no question about it.
AMAS85 - January 30, 2012
+1
DeCastro then Martin (or, god willing, Richardson) would be my ideal draft at this point.
emeybee - January 30, 2012
I'd be very happy
With DeCastro and Martin
biggie22 - January 30, 2012
thats probably my ideal draft too.
at this point at least
Brennen Warner - January 30, 2012
CB is a skill position better suited for a top FA
If that happens and possibly a FA guard as well, then go for an ILB and another G.
sofakingood - January 30, 2012
Agree
I think, like WR, it’s one of the positions you really need to see a guy play at an NFL level before you can evaluate him correctly. Of course, that was my argument against drafting AJ, so if we get a CB to come in and play like he did I’ll happily eat crow again.
emeybee - January 30, 2012
What free agent CB would they sign that is/was cheaper than J.Joe and better than Clements & Pacman? None. They aren’t signing a starting CB.
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
So you could also say the same applies to starting G's.
sofakingood - January 30, 2012
Not at all. They can sign a Guard for whatever money because they aren’t tied up in the position. Plus almost any FA Guard will be better than Livings
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
Agree with the Livings part
Diesel2405 - January 30, 2012
Leon Hall wont be back next Season
Take it to the bank. Draft Mark Barron to protect the deep threat . Find a guy who can protect against the deep pass. Grab a hitter who can make a difference. Mark Barron lurking in the backfeild is a hammer. When and will the Bengals ever learn that a Hammer is Force. When is the last time the Bengals went to Home Depot. To fix a Toilet. Just grab a Hammer. Just find guys who want to play with the will of busting chops. if you enter into my turf. I will make you reget. Mark Barron is this Type!
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
Makes no difference in this league anymore
Hard hitting safeties aren’t necessary when they’re not allowed to hit a receiver until he catches the ball and runs two steps. The reason TEs are taking over the game is because the middle of the field is easy to manipulate with the new rules.
Mexal - January 30, 2012
+1
Diesel2405 - January 30, 2012
Terell Thomas
He would be cheaper than J-Joe and better than Clements and Pacman but he does have the injury concern.
EPK1979 - January 30, 2012
cb is also one of the most expensive positions to upgrade in fa
has there been any indication during mike brown’s tenure at the helm, he’s willing to spend the big bucks in fa?
if brown makes a move in fa to secure DBs, they won’t be the top guys available. they will be the top guys available for under 3-5 million a year. you ok with another season of 1-3 million dollar DBs filling out our roster?
palewook - January 30, 2012
I agree
A lot better long term to draft a CB than pick up a FA. Also lots of FA CBs don’t match previous production when they go to a new scheme.
indesignkat - January 30, 2012
agree
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
Antonio Bryant.
emeybee - January 30, 2012
the exception
bengals have never brought in a big ticket DB unless you count nate at 5 million. which is a long way from 8-12 million per year a top corner would fetch.
palewook - January 30, 2012
I couldn't disagree with that statement more
CBs are in such high demand that you have to break the bank to get a decent one. Cortland Finnegan is a great example. He’s a very good CB, but it cost top end money to get him. The best place to get a CB is round 1 of the draft, otherwise you are gambling a lot!
The Dealio - January 30, 2012
as indesignkat brought up
fa corners are not only expensive, they tend to be less effective as they get older. so you pay the bank for one and he plays like half the player you paid for.
palewook - January 30, 2012
And they're used to another scheme whereas a draft pick could learn right away.
DTFCPDX - January 30, 2012
Unless Richardson is available,
Bengals shouldn’t take RB in the first round. I love Martin, but I need him to stand out like Richardson before a first round pick is used on him. I think there are far better, NFL ready players that will be available. Now, if he falls to the Bengals in the 2nd, grab him.
M Shop - January 30, 2012
Just out of curiousity
If Martin broke a 4.4 fourty @ the combines would you consider taking him in the first round?
biggie22 - January 30, 2012
martin is going to be a hindsight draft pick
if we take him in the 1st and he dont work, its chris perry deja vu. if we skip drafting martin because we hoped to get him with a later pick, its steven jackson deja vu.
martin breaks a 4.4 or gets a 4.4, he’s going late 1st round. the injury to miller has teams looking at martin already.
i’d really rather have a solid CB and a super G from the 1st round and settle for polk in the 2nd than reach for martin. in 3-4 years, if martin is superman in the nfl, chalk it up to hindsight.
palewook - January 30, 2012
I agree
Martin runs 4.4 he will go in the first. I don’t think he will I think he has more quickness than speed. Also, I’m pretty sure Miller will run at the combine and his shoulder injury isn’t severe enough to make him slide drastically, unless he puts up a bad 40 at the combine. I don’t see that happen. With his size and speed, GM’s will be slobbering over themselves.
EPK1979 - January 30, 2012
miller's shoulder injury is only affecting his draft with one team
cincy would have taken him at 21 if richardson were gone. now, i have doubts. expect miller to slide into end of 1st or top of 2nd. like a #30-50 pick
palewook - January 30, 2012
I actually thinks he stays as a mid first rounder
His explosiveness is what will set him apart from other running backs. He has elite burst and speed. He won’t run a lot of people over and he won’t get as much yards after contact as Richardson but he will get a lot of big yardage plays. Not going to compare him to Barry Sanders but he will be kind of like him. Where Sanders would be getting 2 yards here 4 yards there, then he would break a 40-50 yard run.
EPK1979 - January 30, 2012
I think that will move him up draft boards, but it won't make me more excited about him
We have plenty of tape showing how fast he is in games. How fast he is on a track is irrelevant.
I agree with most in that if Richardson isn’t available (and I still think he might be, RBs haven’t gone in the top 16 in the draft hardly at all the last decade) then I say wait until the 2nd for RB. Is there really a big difference betwen Martin and Polk, Miller, Gray, Pead, etc?
The only really strong feelings I have about RB in this draft are that we grab one in the first few rounds, we take Richardson if he’s available, and we absolutely do NOT take the kid from Virginia Tech. Fumble-prone and talks exactly like Cedric Benson. He ran the ball 14 times for 30 yards, but it’s the coaches fault they lost because they didn’t feed him the ball more. Screw that guy.
indesignkat - January 30, 2012
with you on david wilson
on paper i liked his stats, then seen the fumble issue come and then the comments. might as well resign benson and save the draft pick if wilson is our option.
palewook - January 30, 2012
I've been a fan of Martin for awhile now...
but if the OL isn’t addressed then is he the type that can get YAC? And if CB isn’t addressed then the biggest need hasn’t been addressed. CB and G would be my first two choices pending who is available. This may very well change if a top G isn’t available or vice versa…but even then I’d have trouble going with a RB in the 1st.
M Shop - January 30, 2012
If Bobbie has another year left, and comes back strong after his injury
I’m not too worried about the line, at least not from a run blocking perspective. The line opened HUGE holes for Benson most of the year. He almost never got yards after contact, and when he did he often fumbled for his efforts, so the fact that he averaged almost half a yard better per carry than he has for most of his years is proof the line can run block.
I want the line addressed, but the notion that no RB could succeed beind our line is just silly. Benson is by FAR the worst starting RB in the league and has been since he was drafted. There are at least 40 guys that could have easily gotten 1200-1400 yards behind our line last year.
indesignkat - January 30, 2012
that’s not true, come on now. our line is crappy at run-bocking, you are lying to yourself if you think Benson was the only problem.
Brennen Warner - January 30, 2012
a
whit decasto cook collins smith
QBG - January 30, 2012
I like the looks of this.
Ben-GAL - January 30, 2012
DeCastro plays RG
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
I think his line-up is just a bit askew
Whit at LT. Andre moves back to LG, since he is a natural on the left side. Cook at center. DeCastro at RG and Collins at RT. That’s a good O-line right there.
WOOD98 - January 31, 2012
Where does this natural left side thing keep coming from? He played LT in college because that’s where your best lineman plays. Not because he was more comfortable or natural there.
Joe Goodberry - January 31, 2012 via Android app
The point is that he played the left side for his entire career before he came to the Bengals
That, in itself, makes him more natural on the left side. Its no different than it is with Boling. The footwork and hand work is the exact opposite when you move to the right side. Some guys can’t make that adjustment. I think Andre has been good on the right side but I believe moving him back to the left where he has played the majority of his career could make him dominant again. It will be more instinctual. Under the scenario it also keeps DeCastro on the right side where he has been used to playing.
WOOD98 - February 1, 2012
He averaged almost 4 yards per carry without ever breaking a tackle or juking anyone into missing
that’s all the o-line
Admittedly the last few games they looked pretty bad, but up to that point they’d been pretty damn solid. The stats don’t lie. Benson had his 2nd best ever ypc avg if I remember right. Do you remember ever seeing him break a tackle this year? The line giftwrapped every yard he got.
indesignkat - January 30, 2012
Is Martin North and South
I wanted Chris Polk over Martin. Maybe i wrong. Martin may be the guy. I only wanted Polk orer Martin because Polk can Bounce to the sidelines. Polk is more of an east west threat.
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
I think you’re mixing the two RBs up.
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
polk is a little pinball with hands
martin’s hands are less than polks but he’s faster than pol
palewook - January 30, 2012
Alright…
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
you understand i'm agreeing with you on polk being more north south
and martin being more east west.
palewook - January 30, 2012
I was confused.
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
im pretty sure he has it backwards too lol
AMAS85 - January 30, 2012
Martin in the 1st would be a big reach, rather go after a C/G Combo like Konz
Touhue Cha - January 30, 2012
where i am at too
palewook - January 30, 2012
Like Konz idea
sofakingood - January 30, 2012
honestly...
I think they’d be a reach in the first too, I starting the feel that a second round RB is a good move, maybe use one of our late picks for ocho to move up in the second
The Dealio - January 30, 2012
If Richardson is there, take him.
But if he is gone, and we can upgrade CB and O-line, then we need to do it and get a RB later.
Ben-GAL - January 30, 2012
Trent is out of the equation.
Get real. Only guys left of value are Miller and Polk . Trent R will be long gone. So will be Decastro. Dallas will grab up Decastro in a heartbeat.There goes David. What a shame. Imagine Decastro next to Whit.
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
If Kirkpatric Slips
Like some are projecting, I could easily see Dallas grabbing him ahead of DeCastro. Dallas has basically the same needs as us
biggie22 - January 30, 2012
DeCastro plays right guard, he'd be next to Andre, and maybe move either Collins or Andre to left guard.
DTFCPDX - January 30, 2012
Martin all day
Been saying this for the longest. If he is there the Bengals will grab him.
Biggest factor here is free agency. With this draft I hope they address some needs in free agency with the O-line. But I would take Martin. Waiting till the second would be a mistake. If Richardson is there at 17. Martin who.
Cincinnati222 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
Here's the upside
The bengals select a corner with the #17 pick. Any corner.
When Oakland comes to Cincinnati in 2012, the cornerback that was drafted with the Palmer pick lines up on a corner blitz at some point during the game, and sacks Palmer so hard his lower intestines burst into flame.
At least, that’s how I have it working out. You know, in my head.
Skyhook - January 30, 2012
I like it
but I like seeing Palmer throw pick sixes for other teams even more. I hope he has another 4 years in the league at least, as long as he isn’t in Cincinnati.
indesignkat - January 30, 2012
LOL !
laibach - January 30, 2012
It really depends on what they wabt the run game to look like next season.
If they have a different style in mind they might draft accordingly, but they may draft first then adjust the style to the personnel. If they plan on keeping it the same I would go for Glenn or Osemele over DeCastro. Then add Polk in the second. If they want to go more stretch plays I’d take DeCastro with Miller, Martin, or Wilson. This whole thing is driving me nuckin futs! Once they make that first pick I think we will see what direction their going to go.
Bigcatdaddy - January 30, 2012 via Android app
*want
Bigcatdaddy - January 30, 2012 via Android app
I have a feeling Decastro will be gone... but you never know
txbengal29 - January 30, 2012
expect decastro to go in the 10-15 range
palewook - January 30, 2012
Janoris Jenkins
Wow if he is available at 17…. jump on it, I think he could be the real deal, a playmaker who can turn and run with top recievers…. then Cordy Glenn at 21… I know running back is exciting and tempting…but much safer to upgrade the interior line.
txbengal29 - January 30, 2012
jenkins probably will be there at 17 and who we take
provided decastro and richardson are off the board
palewook - January 30, 2012
That would be a boom-or-bust draft. High bust rate for both players.
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
you made a funny
you said “high bust rate” while jenkins name was in the conversation, doing it too without meaning his off the field issues.
palewook - January 30, 2012
are you still a fan of
Stephon Gilmore over Jenkins Joe, even after Jenkins showing at the Senior Bowl? I’m curious to see if Gilmore starts moving up draft boards
The Dealio - January 30, 2012
Yes. Jenkins didn’t do anything spectacular at the Sr.Bowl. He looked exactly the way he should have. No? I expected it. If he came in at 5’11" and showed a nose for the run game, I might have moved him up. Ya know?
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
you wanted him in heels at the senior bowl did you?
~
palewook - January 30, 2012
Huh?
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
you wanted him to come in at 5'11
which is 2 inches higher than he scales at
palewook - January 30, 2012
Did I want him to? Sure
My point was: Had Jenkins measured in a 5’11", that would be reason to move him up. I’m not hurting his grade because he’s 5’9" because I expected something close to that. His grade already reflected his height. But if he showed up at 5’11", it would’ve changed some things.
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
He prolly doesnt weigh enough either right?
Diesel2405 - January 31, 2012
What do you mean showing at Senior Bowl I saw him get beat alot
messjunk - January 30, 2012
Those 1 on 1 drills are advantage: WR. It’s not about winning & losing. You’re supposed to be looking at footwork, balance, back peddle, transition, Aggressiveness, ability to locate ball and make a play on it. Then closing speed, recovery, ability to jam, play off man, and overall athleticism.
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
In the game I saw nothing to say he's a 1st rounder
messjunk - January 30, 2012
On the field, to me, he’s 100% a first rounder. A top 20-25 talent. Only his size hurts him. (again, on the field.)
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
Martin in the first?
I hope they don’t do this. I see value in getting him in the second, but at #21, it seems like we are drafting him at his ceiling.
This draft seems like it is set up for us this year. It is deep at most of the positions we need (guard, corner & WR). So unless there are still a handful of the elite guys still available (deCastro, Richardson, Jenkins, Kirkpatrick) I say we trade the #21 and move back into the 2nd round if we can where we can get better value picks.
I’m on the fence concerning Barron if he falls to us. We need a ball-hawking centerfielder, not a haymaker, otherwise just start Taylor Mays.
EarthwormJim - January 30, 2012
i'd rather score 2 starting CBs in the 1st than take Barron and a CB
hall is injured and we have no idea when he’ll be available next season or what condition he’ll be in. in a worst case scenario, hall’s CB days are behind him and he’ll be a safety for the bengals in 2013. i hope it doesnt come to this.
jennings and jones are free agents. nate’s another year older, slower, and a step more behind the fast WRs. Nelson is a FA. ghee is a never-was.
i’d really like to have 2 solid starting CBs going into the preseason. (keep in mind the above assessment is minus any moves we might make in free agency. things could – should, change between now and the draft. i hope.)
palewook - January 30, 2012
I'm assuming they address one CB spot in FA
1. Do you really want 2 rookies starting at CB?
2. This would eventually lead to another Hall/Joseph scenario where they won’t resign both so close together.
I’d prefer to keep a veteran in one spot to groom the rookie, and the find a replacement in 2013 or 2014.
Or maybe Ghee will step up?
EarthwormJim - January 30, 2012
i'm crossing my fingers and hoping hall is 100% on opening day
fearing the worst and considering drafting insurance though
palewook - January 30, 2012
Cross you fingers.
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
Here is the prob
Can the Bengal Line ever understand the fact that an offside penality is the same as a sack. Why does the Off Line give up so many sacks. Who kills Dalton is his own team. Box Score. Dalton was never touched. Daltons line sacks Dalton. Dalton never lost the game. Off line saked Dalton.
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
Ask Dalton if a penalty is the same as a sack
I’m sure he’d rather walk back 10 yards than dig himself out of the dirt :)
EarthwormJim - January 30, 2012
you don't get the down back on a sack.
also, when was the last time a false start caused a fumble?
dqniel - January 30, 2012
But Dalton wasn’t sack a lot…
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
u just gotta let chili be chilli =)
palewook - January 30, 2012
I guess so
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
Green comited an error. Touchdown overturned.
Dalton lost a great throw.
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
Broken Play
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
Andy Responce
What do you think?!
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
If we want to WIN next year, we should sign an experienced FA at CB.
And get OL & RB in the draft and CB depth in later rounds
gratefulmax - January 30, 2012
I'm not one to know every player in the draft but I do know this
The NFL grinds up RB’s aggressively. Teams that want to make it in the playoffs cannot rely on their older running back and have worked hard to create a two back tandem.
We need top level RB talent out of the draft and it should be a huge priority.
Of course, we also need help at CB and O line, but I would rank need at RB to be urgent. I’m not even saying it should be our 1A pick, but I would be surprised if we didn’t get a RB in the first round. I default to the staff as to exactly who gets selected in the first round for RB and CB. My guess would be you take the best that is still there and not really need to reach. But we best find a great Guard in the second round and take care of these three priorities before getting all fancy with WRs and LBs.
UpStateMike - January 30, 2012
Theres a better Chance to Land Pead in the 2nd than it is with Martin
Touhue Cha - January 30, 2012
Ha. Of course it is.
Joe Goodberry - January 30, 2012 via Android app
pead in the 2nd still seems like a reach to me
who knows, if the kid can play every down in the nfl at 193 pounds and have a long career, he’s a steal in the 2nd.
palewook - January 30, 2012
pead
pead looked good but so does b scott get rid of benson keep scott lenard presley at fb and add a martin a pead or polk and use all of them like sean payton
QBG - January 30, 2012
IDK about that, its going to be close. Watch out for Phily, Washington, Pats, or any team in need of a change of pace/ returner in second to take a look at him
AMAS85 - January 30, 2012
i can so see the pats making a move on him
with ben a FA
palewook - January 30, 2012
think how scary Pead would be in a pats uniform. thats all i got to say. they know how to use players to the fullest, when they go after the ones they want
AMAS85 - January 30, 2012
All Media says that The Bengals are Easy to Plan For.
Bengals need a Hammer. Someone who can play Ray Lewis Football. Grab a Hammer. Mark Baron is this Type, A guy who protect his turf.
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
i agree
we got beat all year long down the middle nelson crocker get rid of them booth id keep nate good veteran
QBG - January 30, 2012
But can Barron cover
I keep seeing all this Barron love, but from what I’ve heard he can’t cover… We need a S who can cover.
Oregonbengalsfan - January 30, 2012
c
he sounds like an upgrade to the secondary, remember fulcher williams they where like xtra backers didnt need to cover when u know they r coming
QBG - January 30, 2012
they played in a time when the safety could actually hit receivers
Mexal - January 30, 2012
u r right
its a girls league now
QBG - January 30, 2012
Cover is the deed to be at the right place at the right time,
Who can the Bengals select other than Barron. Who is better as a hammer.
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
Wait till next year when the safety class has more prospects
or I say take Smith. He can cover
Oregonbengalsfan - January 30, 2012
+1 agree
we’re not fixing all holes in one draft and nor should we be trying
messjunk - January 30, 2012
s
so where should we start. id take barron and denard and pead martin polk in the 2nd
QBG - January 30, 2012
No Dennard!
Oregonbengalsfan - January 30, 2012
Dennard sucks donkey balls
Diesel2405 - January 30, 2012
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then what cb or s do we draft what do u do
QBG - January 30, 2012
Kirkpatrick, Claiborne, Gilmore, Hayward, Boykin...
Oregonbengalsfan - January 30, 2012
S
Harrison Smit
Oregonbengalsfan - January 30, 2012
Smith
wish there was an edit button
Oregonbengalsfan - January 30, 2012
yea
I’m big on Smith and have taken some flack on here about drafting him. He can cover, he has good playmaking skills and seems to always be in the right positions at the right times.
EPK1979 - January 30, 2012
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who can cover
QBG - January 30, 2012
the last guy that made a little difference was darryl williams
last guy i can remember that roamed the field was darryl williams coorect me if im wrong
QBG - January 30, 2012
he was pretty much the last great bengals safety
bear of it was, we let him go to free agency rather than pay williams. he played here 4 seasons, we drafted him in the 1st, then played his best seasons in seatlle. coming back here to finish his career.
palewook - January 30, 2012
Sounds familar
I thought Takeo would come back. We seem to groom them and then let another team benefit from that
messjunk - January 30, 2012
right on
i miss tough guys like williams and fulcher im not sold on jenkins and rey m looked too soft getting lost in traffic
QBG - January 30, 2012
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smith landon johson amhad brooks spike too many to name but brian s and takeo were solid 1st round picks
QBG - January 30, 2012
Correction.....................DAVID FULCHER!!!
gratefulmax - January 30, 2012
fulcher roxed =)
fuclcher’s prime was 88, williams 98.
palewook - January 30, 2012
in not on the corner in the first band wagon
The two teams in the superbowl have awful corners but get it done in different ways. I think we can look like the giants with a great pass rush good running game and above average qb play…o really think a corner in the first is unnecessary unless its a revis just my opinion
beast_ - January 30, 2012 via mobile
get a clue
Im with childog; mark barron will be playing in the nfl for the next ten years and if we dont grab him the steelers or the ravens will somehow. nelson and crocker =toast
QBG - January 30, 2012
steelers wont get barron
steelers have massive issues to address on both lines
palewook - January 30, 2012
hall barron mays jenkins sands miles
I think we draft jenkins barron and martin in the second. get rid of the me me guy like benson is a cancer, pacman is a joke. crocker cant cover like i spell. i also think rey m was too soft and cant fight off blocks. we need a david fulcher , i like barron
QBG - January 30, 2012
After seeing Jenkins in Senior Bowl he's not the answer at CB
messjunk - January 30, 2012
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i agree looks too small
QBG - January 30, 2012
I don't why everyone gets so upset over these mocks
It’s a joke Marvin Jones in 1st . We get Janoris Jenkins because everybody figures we’ll take the hard cases, I’m hoping Jerry gets sucked into the hype around him
messjunk - January 30, 2012
The hype that he is a really good cover corner?
Diesel2405 - January 30, 2012
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how tall is he size matters
QBG - January 30, 2012
5'9"
messjunk - January 30, 2012
Yes he's not a first round talent I'm starting to agree with Joe Stephon Goilmore is our best option if we must take CB in first
I’m for using 2nd and 3rd round for them
messjunk - January 30, 2012
Barron, Jenkins
Both day one starters… We can get rb or g later in draft and thru free agency.
pray4gm11 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
last time bengals drafted day one starters
takeo spike brian simmons
QBG - January 30, 2012
?
Levi Jones,Hall, Joseph or Green didn’t start?
pray4gm11 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
DeCastro, Martin
Both day one starters… We can get cb or s later in draft or thru free agency.
See? I can say things too!
Luke - January 30, 2012
Jenkins
flip flopping again?
Oregonbengalsfan - January 30, 2012
we have another 90 days to flip flop around
we’re all going to between now and then =)
palewook - January 30, 2012
yeah
I like Pead but since that’s a reach I’ll take my chances on Jenkins. If he still there at 21 we have too take him. If he gone we need to take best lb available.
pray4gm11 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
a
lets grab em then,
QBG - January 30, 2012
s
i like barron what about leanard johnson
QBG - January 30, 2012
Do the Bengals have one guy on roster who can hit. I bet Mark Barron will give Hines Ward a Punch In The Nose?!
Payback is honest.
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
someone always brings up brandon ghee (and its escaping me who it is atm)
as a hitter
palewook - January 30, 2012
Roy Williams made a difference
That’s why we need Barron, nobody can hit or is near ball hawk as this kid. Mays can hit but its times he might flat out miss his target. Barron being playing major minutes all four years and three year starter on the best defense in last 4yrs. He is sleeper of draft to me. Overall best defensive PLAYER in draft.
pray4gm11 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
roy was sorta used up by the time we got him
limited coverage skills, solid tackler, good against run. liability in coverage.
(same way you could describe crocker)
palewook - January 30, 2012
lol
I was just saying how teams feared him in middle. When u have known reputation as big hitter playersook for u across middle. Who on out team now u would fear?
pray4gm11 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
Your fav player, Nelson
He brings the wood! You have to remember these guys can’t really hit receivers anymore. I hate it and think the rule could be rewritten but it’s probably not going to be.
Bigcatdaddy - January 30, 2012 via Android app
there's no night trains allowed in the nfl any longer
palewook - January 30, 2012
49ers hit u in mouth, Seattle hit u in mouth
pray4gm11 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
What's the name of the kid that played safety for Texas?
He looked pretty good in the games I watched this year.
Bigcatdaddy - January 30, 2012 via Android app
If you want a hitter in the secondary
That won’t be a liability in pass coverage, your gonna have to wait next year for Lester, Mcdonald, Holloman, Rambo and Armstrong. All five will be first rounders and way better players than Barron.
EPK1979 - January 30, 2012
barron is good in coverage
Barron is a 4yr player on best defense in nation, he can do it all.
pray4gm11 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
"Not very comfortable in man coverage"
Oregonbengalsfan - January 30, 2012
15 career int.
pray4gm11 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
+1
Diesel2405 - January 31, 2012
Barron is no one to mess with. First rounder who will dish it out.
Why is Mark a first rounder? Just because this guy can ton it out. Grab a Hammer. Find Fear! Who on the roster can bring fear! Who in this draft can bring more fear than Barron? I bet Torrey Smith and Mike Wallace will not like their backs with Mark Barron lurking behind!
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
If I see Chili say "Hammer" one more time!
I’m going to go drown a sack full of puppies. Seriously. Just stop.
EarthwormJim - January 30, 2012
for what is worth
Everybody says Lester is better in coverage than Barron, but fact of matter is Lester played ss while Barron played fs. Most passing downs Barron played center feild. They were interchangeable on defense for Alabama but Barron is way better than Lester….
pray4gm11 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
Let's Face It
We need DeCastro and we have to do everything we can to land him. Moving up a couple of spots will not cost that much. The CB’s available to us in the 1st, are a total crapshoot. Martin in the1st is also a stretch, but have no problem drafting the RB of our choice at 17 or 21…..as long we get DeCastro.
laibach - January 30, 2012
Barron is too stiff in his for me.
Also, It’s easy to make plays when everyone around you is dominating at the college level. Barron wasn’t a liability in pass coverage at Bama like he will be in the pros. A lot of his hype is that this year class of safeties is really weak with one dimensional safeties. I don’t hate Barron, I just don’t like him in the first round. I would rather wait next year and get a Holloman or McDonald. Just my opinion.
EPK1979 - January 30, 2012
HIPS
EPK1979 - January 30, 2012
And Barron is even less proven at the NFL level than Mays
Just don’t see us going S in the first round of the draft when they might be picking up another Mays.
Oregonbengalsfan - January 30, 2012
Two different players
Mays is athletic and was a freak of nature not known for his brains
Barron is really not all that athletic and is a student of game. Rarely gets beat when playing center feild. Barron could come in from day 1 and call out plays for us. It a take 5yrs before Mays would be able to do that.
pray4gm11 - January 30, 2012 via mobile
Drafting Barron and having him lay the wood is like Having Taylor Mays at LB
Touhue Cha - January 30, 2012
Grab a glove Kid
Baseball is a game of cheating, Football is a game of fear. None for the other. Jusy the law of what is and what will never be, Throw the ball. Can you catch the ball? Grab a glove! Throw the ball ! Enter the game with a cool mitt. The Kid got it. Wow is the Mitt. Who ever will forget their first Mitt!? Who will remember the first taste of wine? Who can apart the day of a kid who wants a simple taste of fine wine that was a mitt? Will us ever forget our first mitt? Is Father Son still the value of day? Is the Glove worth It? Was it and will it ever be? Father and Son are both wondering of why Baseball is a cheating game? Steal a sign. Play the game! Grab a Glove Son and understand that Baseball is a Cheating game. Can Baseball be More than what it is? Baseball is and will always be a cheating game. No rules. Just guys with gloves who want to win. Money is the ticket! Curt Flood changed the game! Reserve Clause turned baseball around! Who was the person who Protected the Reserve Clause? Who was the person who broke the Owners? Did or did not the Owners engage the Courts ? Did Landis get it right? Grab a glove kid. Play ball!
Chili Dog - January 30, 2012
Go Reds! Lol
Bigcatdaddy - January 30, 2012 via Android app
i bet their is a haiku some where deep in there...
AMAS85 - January 30, 2012
really, really deep in there
AMAS85 - January 30, 2012
I'm halfway convinced QBG, Chili Dog, and pray4gm11 are the same person.
seriously why would we blow a first rounder on a safety in this draft
Doc Scratch - January 30, 2012
Why would we blow a 1st rounder on an RB?
Diesel2405 - January 31, 2012
The picture illustrates part of why Martin could be a good pick at 21
He is securing the ball high and tight as he powers through the attempted tackle. He is running with power through his legs and keeping his knees high. All of this equates to ball security, an ability to break tackles and a lack of being tripped up by ankle tackles.
Personally I think he looks like a more athletic Brian Leonard and that would do real well in this offense. I only say “could” b/c if Richardson or DeCastro is there you have to consider them b/c they are higher rated prospects at positions of need. Otherwise I’m not opposed to taking Martin, especially since he isn’t likely to be there in round 2.
As for the FA CB talk. Asante Samuel is the only guy who would be available that I would consider; however, Jenkins is basically a younger version of Samuel. So if Samuel is your best option why not draft Jenkins, the same type of player, who is younger, faster and will cost a lot less money? Free Agency should be focused exclusively on the 2 high profile, pro-bowl guards available and the Bengals’ players who need retained. Outside of that, just sign our own and draft.
WOOD98 - January 31, 2012
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