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7 months ago: MIAMI, FL - OCTOBER 27: Chase Minnifield #13 of the Virginia Cavaliers attempts to tackle Travis Benjamin #3 of the Miami Hurricanes as he runs with the ball on October 27, 2011 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami, Florida. (Photo by Joel Auerbach/Getty Images)
Even though the season finished just under two weeks ago, today the Bengals personnel department is meeting at Paul Brown Stadium to discuss who to watch for at the NFL Draft combine in Indianapolis next week. The combine is an important time for many players as their stock can rise or fall as a result of their performances. A player like Jonathon Joseph, who was in the shadows for many teams, can come out and run a 4.3 40-yard dash and have it push them into the first round. Or, a player can have a combine like Andre Smith, who ran a horrible (and topless) 40-yard dash and was able to bench press 225 lbs a meager 19 times (the top number in 2009 was 39).
As we all know, Joseph was an immediate success with the Bengals and has gone on to have a wonderful career and, this past year, ruined the Bengals' chances at winning their first playoff game in 21 years. Smith, on the other hand, had a bad combine, the Bengals still drafted him at no. 6 in 2009, didn't play at all in 2009, and he has had two lackluster years until this past season when he decided to get in shape and start caring about football. Even though the combine can show coaches everything they need to know in order to properly value their draft prospects, as we can see with the case of Andre Smith, that doesn't always matter.

A consensus among fans and analysts is that the Bengals will use one of their first three picks on a cornerback, regardless of their activity in free agency. By pick no. 17 Morris Claiborne and Dre Kirkpatrick, the two top CB prospects in this years draft, will be long gone. Along with this, the rest of the CB class of 2012 is very deep with talent but no one stands out in particular like Claiborne and Kirkpatrick do, so, what are the Bengals to do? First, if someone from the rest of the group emerges at the combine as Joseph did in 2006 it makes the Bengals decision very easy. Second, what do they do if that doesn't happen? Well, because of the depth of this draft it would be probable that the Bengals would draft for other position needs and wait until the second round to pick up a CB. But, would the cornerbacks available be a reach in the second round? The last time the Bengals took a CB in the second was in 2004 when they drafted Keiwan Ratliff out of Florida and, obviously, that did not end well.
Out of the deep CB class, here are two cornerbacks that might be available and would not be a reach in the second round: Chase Minnifield from Virginia and Brandon Boykin from Georgia. Here is what Russ Lande, sportingnews.com, had to say about both corners (and he even has them ranked at no. 38 and no. 39, respectively):
On Minnifield:
Chase, the son of former Browns cornerback Frank Minnifield, is underrated. His smooth athleticism, size at 6-foot and ball skills make him good in all types of pass coverage.
On Boykin:
Boykin is a special athlete who can cover any receiver in tight coverage. When you add in Boykin's return skills, it's clear he'll make an impact.
Minnifield is a player that some mock drafts have predicted the Bengals to take with their no. 21 pick in the first, but he is more of a second round talent. His size is a perfect fit for the Bengals (6-0, 185) and he has superb athleticism. Although his numbers were down this year, that could be due to opposing teams targeting other, weaker aspects of the Virginia defense and leaving Minnifield alone. Minnifield could be a player easily groomed by Clements and Hall for a season before he starts becoming a go-to player in the Bengals secondary.
Brandon Boykin is one of my favorite players coming out of this draft. If he were two inches taller, there would be a strong case for the Bengals to draft him with their second first round pick. Literally, the only thing going against him is his size (5-9, 183). He is very fast (4.4 40), he is as athletic as anybody else in the draft, and he is quick and instinctual (see: his safety in the Outback bowl). Speaking of the Outback Bowl, in that game Boykin scored points for the Bulldogs every way that he could, literally: safety, punt return and receiving touchdowns. He is an all-around player and can take over KR and PR duties in his first season and can be a game-changer, unlike other players the Bengals have previously had at this position (Houshmandzadeh, Ratliff, Caldwell, Cosby, and Tate). Boykin might already be gone by the Bengals second round pick, because of his returning abilities, but if still available he is a player that could certainly make the Bengals a better overall team.
Both of these players, if they have a good combine, could rise in the draft and no longer be a viable option for the Bengals in the second round, but they could be available at, and worth, the no. 21 pick. Or, they could have a horrible day and be available in the third round; you never know. The combine is one of, if not THE, most important period during the NFL off-season, and there could be five CB's that emerge and are all picked in the first round. You can never know what will happen when it comes to the combine and THAT is what makes the NFL off-season great.
In a perfect world, the Bengals would use one of their first three picks on a CB and he would be the second coming of Deion Sanders, but we are all Bengals fans and have become accustomed to expecting the best and finding the worst. That is no longer an issue for Cincinnati because we have a coaching staff that has had three straight years of above-par drafts and, as loyal fans, we must recondition ourselves to expect good results on draft day. Mike Brown may have a lot of issues, but Andre Smith (this year), Maualuga, Gresham, Dunlap, Shipley, Green, and Dalton will all agree that he is heading in the right direction with the Bengals on draft days.
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Either ur a football player or not. In some cases it matter but it all comes down to who has the will to get job done and win. They don’t even have a game for the combine. It useless and its then cost teams especially ours too much money in past years. What’s point of combine if u have Pro Days? There needs to be a game for the combine weekend. That’s where u do ur scouting at not watching some guys workout and run. Come this football not track and feild… Goodell getting away with murder right now.Pretty sure NFL gets a lot of money off the combine.
pray4gm11 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
It's been around long before Goddell
I personally think the only useful part of the combine is the interviews. At least it gives the coaching staff a place to see a large number of prospects then prioritize where they want to go for Pro Days.
Mexal - February 15, 2012
"What’s point of combine if u have Pro Days?"
Because, as the name implies COMBINE, it combines different players from different schools/universities, as well as NFL teeam to come to one location and judge on the talent level of those players opting for the draft. Seriously, there is not enough off days and enough scouts in any NFL organization to travel to every single College/Univerisities Pro Days, you have Div I, Div II, Div III players and just traveling to all those places would be a nightmare for teams. With the combine, you get too see a vast majority of the players opting for the NFL and you can judge them side-by-side and interview them as well. Is the combine perfect, absolutely not, but then what is?
As for Goddell getting away with murder, the Combine has been around well before Goddell took over, in fact, it started in 1982 I believe under Pete Rozell if I am not mistaken. But then again, being that you know more about football than the rest of us, you already know this.. :)
pemci - February 15, 2012
One more thought...
If you are going to invest million’s of dollars on someone, you want to make sure that you know what you are getting. Seeing a player at the Combine and then at that school’s Pro Day can only help you evaluate that player, in my opinion. Some players (Andre Smith, for example) showed up for the combine, but then refused to do anything why there and waited until his school’s pro-day to workout for the scouts. Other players (Tony Mandarich, for example) simply impressed the scouts with their physical abilities, but then did not amount to much out on the football field. The combine is not perfect, Pro Days aren’t perfect, but you can see why teams want to scout future prospects as much as they do….
pemci - February 15, 2012
Combine has killed us. And if I’m not mistaken I believe there’s a limit on how many players u can talk with. And how can u really scout a guy running around naked to play football. Most NFL teams have big boards and they interview players on there board first. We have 60mil to spend on players how much u think.it cost going to 25 schools talking with players? Combine is a waste of time.
pray4gm11 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
25 Schools?
That is how many schools you are restricting yourself to? There are 125 football programs in Division I (or the Bowl Division in the NCAA) ALONE. Plus add another 122 football programs in Division II ( or the Champion Division) and we have not even hit Division III, unless you think that there are no Division III players that can play in the NFL (Pierre Garcon, Fred Jackson come ot mind)…so if you are limiting yourself to just 25 schools/football programs, you are doing your team and your fan’s a great disservice…
You may not like the Combine, but it serves a purpose and does lead to some players being discovered/exposed…
pemci - February 15, 2012
I would hope our boards are already set up
And once again stop tryin argue everything. Everybody don’t get invited to combine. U already have to been looked at by some teams already. Pro days is where u find ur diamond in rough not at combine.
pray4gm11 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
I am not argueing everything (I leave that to you)
I am just pointing our how your comment of visiting 25 colleges was really being a disservice to a team/fan base.
pemci - February 15, 2012
(I leave that to you)
LMAO classic!
Oregonbengalsfan - February 15, 2012
English nit...
You make an effort to write fully literate sentences and salient point, yet you inexplicably abbreviate “you” and “your/you’re” as “u” and “ur”. It’s odd.
supergrover - February 15, 2012
"You make an effort to write fully literate sentences and salient point"
Really?
Oregonbengalsfan - February 15, 2012
eh
I was trying to not be offensive… the posts may not be what I would call sensible, but he makes an effort to be legible and use words that matter… but then does that “u” “ur” thing.
supergrover - February 15, 2012
I’M AT WORK ON A PHONE DON’T GOT TIME TO SIT AND PERFECT MY TYPING. SORRY AS LONG AS U UNDERSTAND
pray4gm11 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
it’s cool. I do understand… except for the whole “I’m willing to completely type out words like especially and conglomerate but not ‘you’”.
supergrover - February 15, 2012
+1
in the same boat, just don’t have time to proof read everything lol
AMAS85 - February 15, 2012
YES! and NO!
It’s like saying is the internet bad, or is ice cream bad. Yes, and No.
It depends on how you use it
If you’re Al Davis and use the combine push a guy from round 5 to round 1 because he runs fast….then it’s bad.
If you’re not Al Davis and use the combine as 1 additional tool to try to separate guys who you have equally bunched together, in a pecking order, then it’s good.
ephram - February 15, 2012
speaking of Al Davis
I wonder how the Raiders fans spend the offseason? We get to do mock drafts, but they trade away all their picks, so they’ve got nothing to mock.
Raiders mock draft:
1) n/a
2) n/a
3) n/a
etc…
ephram - February 15, 2012
Chase Minnifield would be a great pickup in the 2nd round..
I think we should take Kendall Wright with our 1st pick..take Barron with our other 1st pick & then take Minnifield with our 2nd round pick..unless we pick up Standford Routt then we should take Brandon Thompson in the second…but only if we decide to take a FA OG while taking Wright and Barron
Bengal4ever - February 15, 2012
Why Wright?
A second year WR and a rookie with Dalton? I don’t know if I like that. It could either be really bad or really, really good.
Mike Fightmaster - February 15, 2012
It wouldn't be crazy..
Wright needs to learn the playbook, and do what he needs to do just like Green did….Wright has blazing speed and put up HUGE stats for baylor…He could get open quick and create seperation..having a guy like that would really open up the field.
Bengal4ever - February 15, 2012
If we get Bush in FA I guess I can do that.
But I still like Doug Martin in the 2nd if we don’t get Richardson in the first.
Luke - February 15, 2012
I don't want Bush at all
No explosion. I’m tired of backs like that.
Mexal - February 15, 2012
Richardson as our starter or nobody
Micheal Bush can break tackles…i’d rather get a FA RB if we can’t get Richardson
Bengal4ever - February 15, 2012
That's a bold statement
“just like Green did”
That’s a very, very rare thing. Most receivers, even the good ones, aren’t at their potential until their late second or in their third years.
Tell me a team Green couldn’t have started on.
If he has that sort of increase the next two years, he’ll be the clear “best in the league” by a wide margin, over Megatron, over Fitzgerald.
17 needs to be an impact NOW player. Richardson, DeCastro. Maybe someone who tumbles unexpectedly. There isn’t a receiver in this bunch that looks like a Green level impact to me, though Blackmon is probably going to be very good as a rookie.
21 needs to be a risky pick, needs to be spent for what it is, free. They got 17 for trading a player who wasn’t playing for them, they lost NOTHING to get it. 21 should be spent accordingly. Someone a bit of a reach, maybe an early second rounder who won’t be there at #53. Or package up some picks (#21 and Oakland’s 2013 pick which could be a one, maybe the five and six they got for Chad) and move WAY up into the first round to grab one of those game changing corners who won’t be there? Blackmon?
My gut still tells me that Barron will be on the board at #53. Double hernia and zero workouts before the draft. He’s the #44 rated player and only has to drop nine spots.
Skyhook - February 15, 2012
Bah
This was supposed to be a reply to Bengal4ever above.
Skyhook - February 15, 2012
Double hernia
That was what cost Chris Perry his first season with the Bengals…bad flashbacks…..
pemci - February 15, 2012
Chris Perry played a rookie
pray4gm11 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
Even after he "got healthy"
Perry proved to be a lousy running back who was prone to injury.
And Perry tried to hide it, if I recall, and tried to play with it. Barron is having it fully addressed 7 months before training camp and all indications are that it should be 100% successful.
Skyhook - February 15, 2012
perry showed signs of greatness until he dislocated his ankle
he could have been great
AMAS85 - February 15, 2012
Learning the playbook
and playing football is what i mean…If you draft a receiever in an early round you expect them to start.
Bengal4ever - February 15, 2012
For some guys this combine is their best chance to move up the draft order
Some really good players are in the shadows of media darlings and have been overlooked until the combine allows them to showcase their ability.
Conversely, the glaring red flags for Andre Smith were there, and the Bengals ignored them. He cost a ton of money with very little production, and we had to wait years before he even helped the team out. Sure, now he is good but come on, you’re a top OT in the draft and you bench like a high school tight end? UUUGGGHH. He cost us even more because we avoided drafting another OT the following two years.
We best be looking at CB, RB, and OG with the same urgency during the combine and subsequent draft. Take the best CB and RB we can in the first round and then nail a home run with a OG who can play from the first snap of game one until the last offensive play of the Superbowl. Then get some value picks and repeat during free agency.
UpStateMike - February 15, 2012
What abilities? How fast u can run or how much u can lift? It a be better if there was a game tied into the combine. Let the best of best go against each other at the combine to see who can really play? How can u tell how good a football player is at the combine?
pray4gm11 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
Smith didn't sit because of his abilities
He was a hold out to start and then had season ending injuries in his first two seasons. He was fat as farg.
supergrover - February 15, 2012
Chase Minnifield wont be on the board when we pick in the 2nd round
someone will take him in the # 25 to # 40 range
palewook - February 15, 2012
Jayron Hosley in the 2nd then
Bengal4ever - February 15, 2012
Most underrated players get noticed at Pro Days not Combine
Most top players don’t even do the drills at the combine. I guarantee u that most TOP players aren’t going to workout until there pro days.
pray4gm11 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
This isn't for top players
It’s for 2nd-7th round picks.
Mexal - February 15, 2012
combines great for getting real height/weight for players
It’s not going to tell you who’s good and who’s bad, but it will help people pull away from the pack if its a close call.
JCompton41 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
If I remember correctly, the combine really (really) helped
TJ Yates getting drafted. It is an opportunity for a player to showcase himself, and some do, some don’t
pemci - February 15, 2012
qbs for sure can help stock
They come out making great throws it will cause people to take a second look at the tape. But a qb throwing in shorts and tshirts means nothing if he can’t do it in game.
JCompton41 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
Under Pressure and decision making
Cant really be determined,thats why guys that can throw the ball 80 yards,and run really fast tend to get drafted early,and tend to be busts.Some exceptions,but teams can be mislead in the combine when they are just measuring speed,
strength,and size.
keithp - February 15, 2012
Of course the combine matters
I think its especially important when it comes to WR’S and CB’S. Those players get put through drills that you can get a really good understanding of those players skill set. Overall, its one big job interview thats essential for all the teams.
EPK1979 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
Just look at it this way.
When we used to draft all our players of what they did at combine and not on feild we suck drafting players. Nowadays we go to BOWL games for our scouting. All I’m really sayin is there need to be some type of game at combine.
pray4gm11 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
Interesting
But it still wouldn’t solve anything by having a game. Top draft picks know who they are and will not risk getting injured to prove it, and honestly why should they? They have a body of work on tapr already, it’s the coaches jobs to dissect that tape.
Yarin - February 15, 2012
The senior bowl didn’t matter?
pray4gm11 - February 15, 2012 via mobile
So If Andrew Luck throws 3 INT’s in your “Combine Bowl” does he drop to the 5th round in your draft?
Yarin - February 15, 2012
I don't know that it is needed
But it gives coaches another chance to see and talk with a potential draft pick so it can’t be a bad thing.
We as fans get players numbers so we can argue for or against a player being drafted. We don’t always or rarely get the players numbers from Pro Days or private workouts.
Just one more tool for us, the fan.
Yarin - February 15, 2012
The combine is better than Pro Days
Pro Days the drills are primarily set up for the player to look good. Having the drills and whatever else set up by their respected coaches and staff that want them to look good because in return it helps them. Also the biggest asset to the NFL teams is the medical part of the combine. They put these kids threw everything from a MRI to a prostate exam lol. They pretty much know who they want going in but this just lets them get the final feel and if they have any health issues (Smiths foot).
Bigcatdaddy - February 15, 2012 via Android app
id say the biggest advantage about the combine, is the opportunity to sit down one on one in stressful environment with the althlete and see how keeps his composure
i.e. dalton did really well under pressure and fielding questions
AMAS85 - February 15, 2012
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