I would much prefer to go get Foster then Wallace! The steelers have good receivers ever without Wallace and giving them another first round pick would not help. Foster has had two huge seasons and not too much miles on him yet. He is in the perfect place to sign to a five to six year deal! Fix the line get a stud back and sign a quality number two wideout makes more sence to me!
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Difference is...
Texans can afford to place the franchise tag on him, or atleast match any offer from other teams.
Jason Blanton - February 20, 2012
Agree they may franchise him, but they're bumpung hard against their cap now...
NorwayMike - February 21, 2012
If we can get him, I'd be extremely happy
but I don’t see the Texans letting him go.
indesignkat - February 20, 2012
Agreed, would be shocked if they let him get away. Huge part of their O, don't see it happening or even getting close.
The Van Buren Boys - February 20, 2012
Realistically...
we’re not getting Foster. There’s no way the Texans will give him up unless they think Tate is good enough to replace him as the feature back and Tate’s too one-dimensional to bring what Foster brings to an offense so I don’t see him leaving Houston. The only hope I can get out of this situation is that the fact that Foster will likely be a very expensive re-signing for them means it will be more difficult for them to re-sign Mario Williams as well, who I’d love to take a shot at.
dstacify - February 20, 2012
I doubt we get Foster
Bengal4ever - February 20, 2012
I don't think we will
But tired of hearing about getting Wallace that way don’t thunk he is worth the pick and having to pay him like a number one to be our number two
js3806 - February 20, 2012
Foster is a zone runner
And you are not a zone team. Foster would not do as well for you as you think.
SoCalTexan - February 20, 2012
bengals actually do run alot more zone blocking than people think.
I was actually surprised when I found out they did.
JCompton41 - February 20, 2012 via mobile
Foster
Has great vision and that’s the number one thing you need in a RB regardless of scheme. We could use a little change to our running game along with a new RB and OL.
js3806 - February 21, 2012
foster would be good anywhere
And any change to this running game would be welcomed.
JCompton41 - February 21, 2012 via mobile
more evidence that the RB position is somewhat dependent as a function of your team
Foster is a great RB. No doubt about it.
But the backup Ben Tate had an even better year in 2011 than Foster.
So either both RB’s are just totally phenomenal, or thier o-line and offensive scheme allow each to be successful
Foster…278 / 1224 / 4.4
Tate…175 / 945 / 5.4 (1 whole yard per carry better!!!)
It depends on whether Houston thinks the former 2nd round pick Ben Tate can replace Foster as well as he did in Foster’s injury absence in 2011. If so, then Houston might not throw the farm at Foster in order to keep him.
ephram - February 21, 2012
The reason why Foster and Tate get great numbers is because they play off of each other
This offense has two very distinct running personalities. Generally we start with foster on a zone stretch to the left/right (most of the time to the right out of a jumbo). Walter is a 2nd receiver and usually lines up on that side, and is a tremendous blocker (that’s what he does best). This is effective against almost any defense because Winston and Brown are two of the best, if not that best, tackles in the league (Brown was rated as a top 3 this season while Winston was top 5-6). They almost always handle DE’s and OLB’s single handed while the we pull the left or right guard to cover the backside of the play, generally with a cut block.
This frees up vickers to open up to set the edge on the second level while Walter keeps the corner off of Foster. All of this blocking is necessary because Foster is not as fast as Tate, who runs a flat 4.4, but possesses better vision and cutting ability. With so many individual blocks on both sides of the play, there is a huge potential for certain holes to collapse and others to open, which Foster excels at hitting. He is valuable in this scheme not because he is athletically gifted, but because his improvisational ability is absolutely devastating. Not only that, but defense tend to run much more zone when Foster is in the game due to his naked boot receiving abilities. While he is deadly as a straight up runner, his skills are amplified against a defense dropping back and allowing him time to get to the 2nd level.
After we hit with a few of these runs from side line to side line with a little bootleg thrown in to move the chains, defenses get exhausted. Linebackers can’t get to the edge as fast and the trench warfare on the defensive side slows down almost to a crawl. That is when we bring Tate in to hit the holes with speed and power against the tired defense and he get huge chunks of yardage. While he doesn’t possess the vision or patience of Foster he does have incredible explosion and athleticism, which works wonders against a defense that has been playing for 6-8 straight minutes. After a few big gains off the fast physical style of Tate, we generally bring Foster back in to catch them trying to work against the play action, much to their dismay.
It is not at all uncommon for Houston to run 8-10 rushing plays in a row while subbing between Foster and Tate. We did it several times this season and nobody but Baltimore had an answer (which in part was due to Andre getting hurt the previous week which allowed them to play the run every. single. freakin. down.)
So, I guess moral of the story is that unless Foster has the right system, with the right line, and the right coach calling the plays, and the right second back to play off of, he won’t be as successful in any other team. They are both gifted, there is no doubt about that, but it isn’t all them.
SoCalTexan - February 21, 2012
You can see this post in motion here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWiuojcDaxk
SoCalTexan - February 21, 2012
i'm not sure that's entirely the case
as some of Tate’s best games this year were with Foster out with an injury.
and Foster’s huge season in 2010 was with Tate out the entire season.
Although i’m sure it’s true that in games they both play together, that they do work well in tandem. But i’m just saying that isn’t entirely the case.
I do agree that it isn’t all them. The right (or wrong) o-line and offensive scheme & playcalling can make a mediocre RB look good, and a good RB look mediocre. But that being said, having a good RB is better than a mediocre one (all things being equal)
ephram - February 21, 2012
I feel that our o-line (before Bobbie got hurt) was a very good run blocking line
I don’t think Foster would fail in Cincy just because it’s a different blocking scheme.
indesignkat - February 21, 2012
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